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Oopsie Daisy

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17. References to watermelon have historically been used in racist and derogatory ways,
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 09:15 AM
Nov 2023

References to watermelon have historically been used in racist and derogatory ways, particularly in the context of racial stereotypes and caricatures. These offensive depictions emerged during times of deep-seated racism and discrimination, particularly in the United States during the era of slavery and its aftermath.

Watermelon was used as a symbol to dehumanize and demean African Americans, perpetuating harmful stereotypes that portrayed them as simple-minded, lazy, and childlike. The association between African Americans and watermelon was often used to justify racial segregation, discrimination, and inequality.

These stereotypes and discriminatory practices have had long-lasting effects, contributing to systemic racism and the marginalization of African Americans. Consequently, references to watermelon can be seen as offensive and hurtful, particularly when used in a manner that perpetuates or reinforces racial stereotypes.

It's important to recognize the historical context and cultural sensitivity surrounding such references. While individuals may not intend to be racist when using watermelon references, it's crucial to be aware of the potential impact and considerate of the historical significance tied to these associations.

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What next? Are the people who made the flyer going to use minstrel show caricatures? sakabatou Nov 2023 #1
That was probably their first draft and considered to be "Too Soon" so an alternate was commissioned. TheBlackAdder Nov 2023 #29
This is from one of the comments..... RussellCattle Nov 2023 #2
Palestinian flag, okay. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #5
The Palestinian flag is not banned in the US Bettie Nov 2023 #31
It's a lot more than tone deaf, it's a straight up racist attack. comradebillyboy Nov 2023 #41
I agree. zanana1 Nov 2023 #57
Yes, it is.... Bettie Nov 2023 #67
Ultra classy DSA Kennah Nov 2023 #3
DSA piling racism on top of antisemitism. comradebillyboy Nov 2023 #42
The link that Russell has posted above explains the connection between a watermelon and the Palestinian Flag. MMBeilis Nov 2023 #4
Hesitate at will. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #6
I don't share your certainty. RussellCattle Nov 2023 #9
Alrighty then. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #10
To be fair, it's entirely possible that DSA is as clueless on this as they are with everything else. yardwork Nov 2023 #20
Your post is spot on, yardwork. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #87
Thanks for this thread! yardwork Nov 2023 #92
Sigh.. I just linked this post of yours to she, yardwork.. Cha Nov 2023 #100
Ignorance to excuse racist tropes? EllieBC Nov 2023 #25
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #40
I'm not defending Goldwag but it seems that Ragnarok Lobster is mis-reading the tweet. progressoid Nov 2023 #77
Ragnarok is exactly right. yardwork Nov 2023 #79
OK. But that's not what I was commenting on. progressoid Nov 2023 #82
In context, that's beside the point. It's basically gaslighting. yardwork Nov 2023 #83
It may be gaslighting. Unfortunately, the example he used to prove his point was meaningless. progressoid Nov 2023 #103
Boom. Rec TY Cha Nov 2023 #106
Thank you. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #90
There were 3 Flyers.. Watermelon only on Hakeem Jeffries.. TY, LMPV Cha Nov 2023 #104
Do you live in the US? Bettie Nov 2023 #33
Because fried chicken was too hard to draw? catbyte Nov 2023 #7
".. Still giving it a side eye" Cha Nov 2023 #8
Well look at that. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #11
Well you're up Cha Nov 2023 #12
🙂🙂🙂 sheshe2 Nov 2023 #86
Hi she.. you might want to check out this Post from yardwork on anohter thread.. Cha Nov 2023 #98
Masks aren't coming off, they are being ripped off with pride! Behind the Aegis Nov 2023 #13
You are absolutely correct. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #93
Maybe not racist, but you went there! Aussie105 Nov 2023 #14
So if not racist, do tell babylonsister Nov 2023 #15
References to watermelon have historically been used in racist and derogatory ways, Oopsie Daisy Nov 2023 #17
Yes though the wrinkle here is that it also symbolizes treestar Nov 2023 #80
It's Obvious to me, treestar. Cha Nov 2023 #109
So many contortionists trying to defend it (or to explain it away as "innocent" and "harmless") Oopsie Daisy Nov 2023 #121
Yeah, DSA is "quite innocent".. The Org who Celebrated in Cha Nov 2023 #125
Yeah clap.. so classy. Cha Nov 2023 #107
If the watermelon is as bad a thing as some... TreasonousBastard Nov 2023 #16
Jeffries is a little busy right now, trying to keep the government open and things. yardwork Nov 2023 #22
I question who made this poster. Emile Nov 2023 #18
A wealthy white art major, probably. yardwork Nov 2023 #21
But whomever drew it it's without the "White Rind", Cha Nov 2023 #112
Hat tip to DUer Haele who noticed the absence of white rind. yardwork Nov 2023 #127
Uncle Tom elighdom Nov 2023 #19
meld of the two different symbols? treestar Nov 2023 #81
Watermelon 🍉 now a Palestinian symbol RainWalker Nov 2023 #23
Right. The "grassroots" movement on TikTok. yardwork Nov 2023 #24
Exactly. blm Nov 2023 #28
I immediately thought of support for Palestine! Yes!!! Goddessartist Nov 2023 #32
Ooh!!! It's so cute!! Go team!!! yardwork Nov 2023 #34
What exactly do you mean? Goddessartist Nov 2023 #35
I'm just trying to be enthusiastic for the cause! yardwork Nov 2023 #44
Right. Goddessartist Nov 2023 #50
"There's no excuse for using it in flyers against a Black New York politician." Cha Nov 2023 #111
I get why people are upset RainWalker Nov 2023 #36
I would think that they'd have done their research Goddessartist Nov 2023 #37
That's like the Twitter and TikTok kids trying EllieBC Nov 2023 #38
Sorry but I don't believe that RainWalker Nov 2023 #39
You don't believe that watermelons are racist tropes? yardwork Nov 2023 #43
You don't believe watermelons are a racist trope? EllieBC Nov 2023 #45
I expect that the watermelon image may be quietly retired, at least in the U.S. yardwork Nov 2023 #46
Not that. This. RainWalker Nov 2023 #47
A prolific terrorist supporter who is no longer with us here made that exact argument after the 10/8 protests AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #52
I'm not tracking RainWalker Nov 2023 #54
Prolific pro-Hamas poster claiming we shouldn't be offended by a swastika at anti-Israel rallies nt AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #56
Strange that when those users get booted EllieBC Nov 2023 #58
Whoever said that needs their head examined RainWalker Nov 2023 #59
Right, the swastika got retired, around the time the little Hamas parachuter was retired. yardwork Nov 2023 #60
Remember the excuse that it was a paraCHUTE and not a paraGLIDER? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #61
Yeah, that didn't fly - so to speak. yardwork Nov 2023 #62
Rats? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #63
I have seen rats. Also references to insects. yardwork Nov 2023 #64
My favorite was the one saying Palestinians need to start chanting "Jews will not replace us" nt AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #65
Don't believer it.. Doesn't make it not TRUE.. Cha Nov 2023 #114
Not the watermelon RainWalker Nov 2023 #123
We should ban the watermelon flag? Sneederbunk Nov 2023 #66
White Nationalists showed up at Floyd protests, too. blm Nov 2023 #26
Oh cute. calimary Nov 2023 #27
Clearly with benign intent dalton99a Nov 2023 #30
It is benign and not what you think RainWalker Nov 2023 #49
All these articles popped up in the past several days. yardwork Nov 2023 #72
It was documented in 2021; certainly going by 2007. One version dates it to 1993 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #89
Yes, the website I consulted acknowledged that there were a few references over the years. yardwork Nov 2023 #91
Meh - no, there's no sign it's "astroturfing". That's just denying agency to people muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #94
Skepticism is good but I see echoes of 2015-2016 and I'm hyper-alert. yardwork Nov 2023 #95
You're American-centric muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #96
I think you're misunderstanding my point. yardwork Nov 2023 #97
Again, your 2nd sentence is American-centric. muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #99
I don't know how I can say any more clearly that I am American-centric. yardwork Nov 2023 #108
Boom. Rec TY Cha Nov 2023 #118
You talked of a "global PR campiagn". Yes, the feeling is global. That's why it's not about the US elections next year muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #120
Pointing out, there's no white inner rind on that watermelon picture. haele Nov 2023 #75
The white ring is also missing in the poster held by the white dude. yardwork Nov 2023 #76
If republicans put out anything similar Mountainguy Nov 2023 #48
WOW. Truly awful people. bamagal62 Nov 2023 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2023 #53
I've followed the conflict pretty close AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #55
I first became aware of the watermelon motif yesterday. yardwork Nov 2023 #68
I think Tuesday was the first I saw it AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2023 #71
I guess it could have been worse BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #69
The watermelon isn't racist, it's aspirational mcar Nov 2023 #70
Like happy paragliders! yardwork Nov 2023 #73
And friendly swastikas mcar Nov 2023 #74
+1. Watermelon has to be eaten respectfully lest you insult the dignity of Hamas dalton99a Nov 2023 #78
... mcar Nov 2023 #84
I would say I am surprised by their ad, but I am not. Behind the Aegis Nov 2023 #85
It's another miserable fail by the DSA. yardwork Nov 2023 #88
Perfect dogwhistle: accuse Jeffries of "shuckin and jivin", fall back on "oh, new symbol for solidarity" mathematic Nov 2023 #101
That's possible but I'm not sure they deserve that much credit. yardwork Nov 2023 #105
It may not be intentionally racist DBoon Nov 2023 #102
Apparently a "watermelon" is a long-time symbol of Palestinian solidarity and resistance. I had no idea. honest.abe Nov 2023 #110
Read through the thread... sheshe2 Nov 2023 #113
I dont know how it can be disputed. It seems to be a fact with articles and images from all over. honest.abe Nov 2023 #115
And the dispute is wrong. We have 2 examples from 2007 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #122
Yeah that very well could be what is going on here. honest.abe Nov 2023 #129
the 'dispute' claiming it has not been a Palestinian symbol of resistance for 5 plus decades is illegitimate Celerity Nov 2023 #131
It's been used longer as a racist trope against EllieBC Nov 2023 #116
I get that is but was it intentional?? honest.abe Nov 2023 #117
Is the DSA that culturally ignorant? EllieBC Nov 2023 #119
I go back and forth on this. yardwork Nov 2023 #126
Well yeah its also really stupid if they did it on purpose. honest.abe Nov 2023 #128
It's DSA the Org who Celebrated in Times Square The Day Cha Nov 2023 #124
I've known of this symbol for years. Goddessartist Nov 2023 #130
Good Grief! What is wrong with some people?? Rhiannon12866 Nov 2023 #132
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