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nadinbrzezinski

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7. For those of us who understand this
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:30 PM
Nov 2012

there is suggestive evidence in the media reports.

The strongest are two fold.

1.- The Denial of Service attack. This can easily be used to get from under your security protocols and not let you do your stuff. It also explains the problems users were having.

2.- The issuing of credentials to those who were not authorized. Translation, somebody hacked a password.

By no means am I saying it actually happened... and the only way we could really find out is if all the servers, and I mean every last one, is turned over to specialists and we have a careful examination of every drive to the last piece of data.

Now if they were planning to use it that way... they would be found. I do not think Mitt has any intention of spending a few years in the clink for vote fraud. If they were not penetrated, then they have nothing to lose but bad programing architecture. Why go through the expense of such unless you intend to sue? This level of forensics, which would give you the evidence to a level of certainty you would accept, is not cheap.

Also I will be honest, I do not think ORCA was the backbone of the operation... a phone app simply does not have the oompth to do that. And yes, it was lousy programing. It was the tip of the spear as it were though.

Also the fact that the OH servers went down at the same time they did in 2004 are just way too much of a coincidence.

But for many reasons we will not know. One party really has no reason to do the forensics and the other... well, assuming they are actually involved, have no motivation beyond what they (assuming the letter was real) already did.

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Kick and Rec Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #1
Here we go again! Coyotl Nov 2012 #17
The Anon hates "officer friendly" argument has no legs. DirkGently Nov 2012 #2
People are asking them why are they not going to the authorites nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #3
I just think evidence is a requirement for belief. DirkGently Nov 2012 #6
For those of us who understand this nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #7
DDOS can be created by overloading service requests by users HipChick Nov 2012 #12
Why I said it could also be lousy programing nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14
Pretty sure DOS is only possible through hacking. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #30
Incorrect Ohio Joe Nov 2012 #60
Sigh jeff47 Nov 2012 #27
You could always like ignore nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #42
I prefer for ignorance to not spread. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #51
Like access is not a database nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #54
It's a good thing you plastered your error over and over again. jeff47 Nov 2012 #81
You just can't take a hint. pintobean Nov 2012 #82
Pfft. Twix is the right answer. jeff47 Nov 2012 #83
Crunchy pintobean Nov 2012 #85
Thanks Nadin defacto7 Nov 2012 #4
Yeah, it is an electronic version of a cell system nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #5
The cell system plus global press announcements? Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #9
Have you ever studied the IRA nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #10
+1 villager Nov 2012 #11
No one will ever know defacto7 Nov 2012 #16
There is one possible way we might find out starroute Nov 2012 #24
There's always a danger... defacto7 Nov 2012 #25
K and R Tutonic Nov 2012 #8
I think it probably happened. So, thanks Anon. We owe you one! Left coast liberal Nov 2012 #13
Or just maybe they want to let Rove twist slowly in the wind starroute Nov 2012 #15
No, we will never know nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #21
That's very 2naSalit Nov 2012 #32
^ this, for the win. Myrina Nov 2012 #48
Now all that is needed is an iota of evidence, right? Coyotl Nov 2012 #18
Tell me what part of the FACTS I Posted are not nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #19
I honestly hope you are sucessful in reasoning with these people. reusrename Nov 2012 #86
I actually do not think any of us will be able to have an adult discussion nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #87
I've been considering writing a letter to the president, I wish someone would do it. reusrename Nov 2012 #88
Go for it nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #89
Very well parsed out! ananda Nov 2012 #20
Two points: Dash87 Nov 2012 #22
Number two nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23
You need to do a lot more thinking jeff47 Nov 2012 #26
lol, this should be good. grantcart Nov 2012 #29
At the risk of sounding stupid, what are script kiddies? UtahLib Nov 2012 #31
'Script kiddies' are, basically, amateurs. randome Nov 2012 #35
People who pretend to be "hackers", but just run tools they don't understand jeff47 Nov 2012 #37
I think the rich fantasy life comes in imagining Rove wants free and fair elections. villager Nov 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #47
I predict the Iggy list in your future... SidDithers Nov 2012 #34
Hacking expert pintobean Nov 2012 #36
"Because it would be beyond their skills to send an anonymous email with their evidence," Zorra Nov 2012 #38
Now, you just stop that. MineralMan Nov 2012 #39
+ Brickbat Nov 2012 #41
Because we know Rove is an infallible genious. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #43
Ah yes, when all else fails, change the subject. jeff47 Nov 2012 #53
Have a magnificent day nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #55
You really should pick a side on your gotchas. jeff47 Nov 2012 #58
I said it was, and you said it wasn't nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #59
No wonder you think that letter has evidence. You apparently have trouble reading. jeff47 Nov 2012 #67
Nope, you do nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #69
And there it is! The Iggy list!... SidDithers Nov 2012 #71
Oh noes! Now I will never reach the SQL is the same as XML plane of enlightenment!!!! (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #74
Note that I called it in post #34... SidDithers Nov 2012 #77
"No, their letter consists of technical terms strung together." THANK YOU!!!!! phleshdef Nov 2012 #46
+1 Ohio Joe Nov 2012 #50
I got this one. reusrename Nov 2012 #90
Your post demonstrates we desperately need to improve science education in this country. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #92
Can't you discuss anything like an adult? reusrename Nov 2012 #94
I'm discussing it on your other post, since that's the relevant place. jeff47 Nov 2012 #95
Even if they did release evidence, JoeyT Nov 2012 #28
It doesn't matter. The failure to produce any sort of actual MineralMan Nov 2012 #40
That I would not mind, assuming they did. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #44
The supposed statement from Anon WREAKS OF TECHNICALLY ILLITERATE BULLSHIT. phleshdef Nov 2012 #45
What must be done RobertEarl Nov 2012 #49
Would you mind actually dealing with the real facts on the ground nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #52
I have 15 years experience in IT. But I don't need even that much to know a bunch of BS jargon. phleshdef Nov 2012 #56
So the Denial of Service did not happen nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #57
Ars never claimed a DoS happened. jeff47 Nov 2012 #61
Oh it is you nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #63
Where did he say Access wasn't a database? phleshdef Nov 2012 #66
You also managed to graduate nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #70
Waving smilies are not helping your argument at all. phleshdef Nov 2012 #73
You've graduated to nadin's Iggy list... SidDithers Nov 2012 #76
Geez, what an intellectual coward. phleshdef Nov 2012 #78
Her. But I absolutely agree with you...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #84
As a we now have 2 new members...with no doubt more on the way zappaman Nov 2012 #91
This is from the poster's first post... SidDithers Nov 2012 #75
So a 60 page voter strike list in a PDF format has FUCK ALL to do with e-voting/tabulation systems? phleshdef Nov 2012 #62
I see, we are not interested in discussion nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #64
Its embarassing to the progressive community. It makes us look like technically illiterate fools. phleshdef Nov 2012 #65
So it is embarrassing to discuss things in a mature manner? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #68
Its embarassing to entertain blatant ignorance as if it has merit and thats what you are doing. phleshdef Nov 2012 #72
As usual, you see correction as a denial of the issue and a cause for condescension. Brickbat Nov 2012 #79
I'd comment on this nonsense, but the OP has me on Ignore, so there's no point. MineralMan Nov 2012 #80
I would say that it's speculation with many separate facts in support of it. reusrename Nov 2012 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author BanTheGOP Nov 2012 #96
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