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Farmer-Rick

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13. Well said

Sat Nov 18, 2023, 07:04 PM

Nov 2023

Religious and private charities have been trying to help the poor for centuries. And they have yet to have half the success that Social Security and Medicare (before the premium increase) has had.

I'm with you. Government, especially democracies, should be actively improving the majority of their citizens lives, not just the filthy rich.

Charity should be a government responsibility.

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Billionaire Philanthropy is a Scam [View all] barbaraann Nov 2023 OP

Irsay contributes to a charity called collectors items The_Casual_Observer Nov 2023 #1

Flash: Billionaires are only interested in themselves justaprogressive Nov 2023 #2

You want the Government to decide which charities should get funds? brooklynite Nov 2023 #3

No, which social needs should get funds. barbaraann Nov 2023 #4

So you're saying we wouldn't need charities at all? brooklynite Nov 2023 #6

Charities are organizations set up to provide help and raise money for those in need. barbaraann Nov 2023 #9

Well said Farmer-Rick Nov 2023 #13

Some of them are; some of them aren't brooklynite Nov 2023 #15

That's exactly what I got when I Googled for the definition of charity. barbaraann Nov 2023 #17

That is a colloquial phrase... brooklynite Nov 2023 #22

Ah, then we disagree on the definition of charity. barbaraann Nov 2023 #25

Can I suggest that no Democracy, no matter how progressive, does not have private charities (your definition)? brooklynite Nov 2023 #29

In theory, yes; in practice, no. barbaraann Nov 2023 #33

Your argument and $4 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks, which mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #31

Good point about deductibility. barbaraann Nov 2023 #36

Norway is not really a good comparison to a country of 332 million people EX500rider Nov 2023 #16

Well, Canada's poverty rate is 7.4% and they have universal health care. A better comparison? barbaraann Nov 2023 #18

No. Canada has fewer people than the state of California. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #30

How about better enforcement of tax codes to weed out abusive tax shelters. Eugene Nov 2023 #11

I'd rather they decide... druidity33 Nov 2023 #48

MacKenzie Scott is an exception. JanMichael Nov 2023 #5

Yes, indeed. barbaraann Nov 2023 #10

K & R Celerity Nov 2023 #7

K&R 2naSalit Nov 2023 #8

A lot of ot is scams . Even the lower level stuff JI7 Nov 2023 #12

Time for Congress to decide what's a charity paleotn Nov 2023 #14

My wife and I both have created DAFs that specifically are directed to environmental causes. onenote Nov 2023 #42

Depends on how it's used. paleotn Nov 2023 #44

Be sure to call Goodwill the first thing Monday morning and tell them mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #19

Our area Goodwill is notorious for its top exec pay levels. barbaraann Nov 2023 #20

Then choose to donate to someone else, rather than have mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #21

I'm not advocating for the government to make charity decisions. barbaraann Nov 2023 #32

Choose one. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #34

I meant the spending of tax dollars on government programs. barbaraann Nov 2023 #37

More government isn't always the solution Polybius Nov 2023 #46

Sorry, I didn't completely answer the post. barbaraann Nov 2023 #23

So, so, so exactly right swong19104 Nov 2023 #27

That is indeed the ideal, IMHO. barbaraann Nov 2023 #41

And, here is the main issue right here. OldBaldy1701E Nov 2023 #24

Set a maximum of tax deductible philanthropic donations swong19104 Nov 2023 #26

Good ideas and I totally agree with "fair share." barbaraann Nov 2023 #39

There are limits on the deductibility of charitable donations. onenote Nov 2023 #43

There should be strict requirements to qualify for charity. LiberalFighter Nov 2023 #28

Exactly. The 0.01% should not markodochartaigh Nov 2023 #35

Right, like Roosevelt and the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #38

And Jimmy Carter's work has almost eliminated guinea worm disease. barbaraann Nov 2023 #40

A small edit: aocommunalpunch Nov 2023 #45

Works for me! barbaraann Nov 2023 #47