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Straw Man

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66. Actually, you did.

Mon Nov 20, 2023, 04:19 PM

Nov 2023

I said this, when you say something which is not really true or realistic but you use it for expressing the intense of the circumstance.

How am I supposed to read that other than "untrue"?

Metaphors have nothing to do with intensity. They are a form of analogy used to help in understanding a situation.

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Gaza's journey to refuge marred by pervasive hunger, streets littered with corpses [View all] David__77 Nov 2023 OP

And, to reiterate, Hamas is solely responsible for the pain and suffering of Sal_NV Nov 2023 #1

Will they be responsible for Israel expelling Gazans from their homeland or using an atom bomb, should they do that? David__77 Nov 2023 #2

Bottom line is that none of this would be happening if the terrorist org., Hamas, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #3

Respectfully, this isn't about taking hostages...it's about keeping hostages CincyDem Nov 2023 #27

I see your point here, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #31

Israel is not going to drop a nuke on Gaza. Israel is not going to exterminate 2.3 million people. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #71

overly simplistic, lacking nuance. WarGamer Nov 2023 #4

No, it isn't, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #6

Yes, it is obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #24

No, it isn't. Sal_NV Nov 2023 #32

No, no matter how many times you Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #7

No matter how many times you deny it, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #9

Arrogance, antagonism and belligerence are not a very wise way to introduce yourself to DU. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #19

Being condescending is also not a wise thing Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2023 #61

Thanks for reading my comment. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #62

Welcome to DU! As you'll find, calling out pro-Hamas propaganda makes some folks a bit testy! tritsofme Nov 2023 #39

As I am finding out. Sal_NV Nov 2023 #40

You are correct. Eko Nov 2023 #11

Do you even listen to yourself? Sal_NV Nov 2023 #12

So what that attack gives them carte blanche over what happens later? Eko Nov 2023 #13

Hamas intentionally murdered over 1000 innocent Israeli civilians, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #14

Huh, well for a fact they have killed over 10,000 people. Eko Nov 2023 #15

Here's a parallel ... Straw Man Nov 2023 #18

Yes it was worth doing. Eko Nov 2023 #20

Fair enough, up to a point. Straw Man Nov 2023 #45

Hitler did not force us to do anything. Eko Nov 2023 #46

Well ... Straw Man Nov 2023 #47

Yeah, metaphorically speaking. Eko Nov 2023 #51

"Metaphorically" doesn't mean "untrue." Straw Man Nov 2023 #53

I did not say it means untrue. Eko Nov 2023 #59

Actually, you did. Straw Man Nov 2023 #66

This is what you said. Eko Nov 2023 #67

And on we go ... Straw Man Nov 2023 #68

a simile is actually a subcategory of metaphor Eko Nov 2023 #69

Fair enough, but there's a key distinction. Straw Man Nov 2023 #70

So give me a metaphor that is literally true. Eko Nov 2023 #72

Metaphors are NOT literally true. Straw Man Nov 2023 #73

What does figuratively true mean? Eko Nov 2023 #74

Figurative vs. Literal Straw Man Nov 2023 #75

If it is not literally true. Eko Nov 2023 #76

Congratulations. Straw Man Nov 2023 #80

Wow. Eko Nov 2023 #82

Yeah, wow. Straw Man Nov 2023 #83

Whats the underlying truth of that song? Eko Nov 2023 #84

The bitterness yet relief of surrender ... Straw Man Nov 2023 #85

Nope. Eko Nov 2023 #86

So what is yours? Straw Man Nov 2023 #87

I'll rephrase Eko Nov 2023 #88

Didn't help. Straw Man Nov 2023 #89

Certainly not arguing with you Eko Nov 2023 #16

Can we at least agree that if Hamas hadn't attacked Israel Sal_NV Nov 2023 #17

Absolutely. Eko Nov 2023 #21

Can we also agree that bombing Gaza and bombing military targets in Gaza are not one and the same? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #22

My anwsers. Eko Nov 2023 #23

Its not polite to ask a question, Eko Nov 2023 #38

It was impottant to get your answers to my questions first. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #48

I shall reply to your question when you do to mine. Eko Nov 2023 #50

I did answer your question, perhaps not in the way you expected. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #54

Its not? Eko Nov 2023 #60

Yes, we can agree on that. Sal_NV Nov 2023 #30

Thanks. Eko Nov 2023 #34

So Israel is innocent of the 12,000 dead in Gaza? patphil Nov 2023 #28

Israel is doing what they perceive they must do to protect their citizens, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #33

I reiteriate, Israel's response was their choice. patphil Nov 2023 #35

And this is exactly what the Allies did to Germany, Italy, and the Japanese, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #36

What we did back then was horrible, brutal beyond belief. We topped it off with 2 nukes for Japan; a needless slaughter patphil Nov 2023 #37

What better way? Sal_NV Nov 2023 #41

Israel needs to win the people of Gaza and the West Bank over by treating them with respect. patphil Nov 2023 #42

I can respect your take on this all the while disagreeing with it. Sal_NV Nov 2023 #43

How will Hamas be removed when Netanyahu is the one who has kept Hamas in power to make Autumn Nov 2023 #57

I honestly don't know, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #58

The thing is ... Straw Man Nov 2023 #49

After the carnage of WW1 we left out the "treat with respect" part and had to go through it all again. patphil Nov 2023 #55

I'm not arguing for the total destruction of Gaza. Straw Man Nov 2023 #56

I understand what you're sayiing, but this is a 75+ year old blood feud we're trying to overcome. patphil Nov 2023 #63

That feud RubyRose Nov 2023 #65

These folks JustAnotherGen Nov 2023 #44

Protection is one thing Butterflylady Nov 2023 #64

DURec leftstreet Nov 2023 #5

so *this* is Mossfern Nov 2023 #8

I guess it is judging by some of the comments here. Sal_NV Nov 2023 #10

There is not one reply to imply that obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #26

How about we don't automatically buy into the propaganda promulgated JCMach1 Nov 2023 #25

Nothing justifies this response malaise Nov 2023 #29

The death toll will moniss Nov 2023 #52

They teach their children to hate us. These over simplified responses are exhausting. They LITERALLY GuppyGal Nov 2023 #77

Who is "they"? Does "they" include the children? If so, is there an age cut-off? David__77 Nov 2023 #78

Do your own 'research' ....even though if you've been alive for more than a minute you'd GuppyGal Nov 2023 #79

When you allow your area to become a giant terrorist camp Mysterian Nov 2023 #81