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15. This so sad to against any kind of cease fire. Lives are at risk.

Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:34 AM

Nov 2023

As long as Palestinian lands are occupied and more settlements are being built, Hamas and Hamas by any other name will be "rebooting." Save the lives of the hostages anyway possible. Save the lives of the innocent Palestinian people anyway possible.

Bombing hospitals where some hostages may be held is not the answer either.
My heart aches for ALL the people caught up in this nightmare of history, even the ones here in the USA.

President Biden was handed the worst political hand in recent history on Jan 6 2021. We are not helping anyone if we don't support him during this horrid time.

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Joe Biden will get no credit for the Gaza ceasefire. None. [View all] Recursion Nov 2023 OP

That's part of his strength, he's a humanitarian, he doesn't care who gets the credit if he can bring peace Walleye Nov 2023 #1

I don't know if he's the greatest of my lifetime, but he (along with Jimmy Carter) is the most modest. DFW Nov 2023 #2

The election is a year away .. agingdem Nov 2023 #3

He has an unselfish reason to start needing to care more about getting credit for what he does Silent3 Nov 2023 #4

In my humble opinion, there should never have been a cease fire. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #5

Disagree. nt Celerity Nov 2023 #7

Disagree! pazzyanne Nov 2023 #9

so Israel had not destroyed enough of Gaza for you? LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #12

For some on this site radicalleft Nov 2023 #16

Ah, "some on this site" again. "Some" are the worst. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #33

I see the Hamas propaganda is strong in you. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #22

Not so much this time Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #34

Cost enid602 Nov 2023 #52

I've been more supportive of Israel's response than most here. But there's been too much destruction LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #38

I was against this all from the start because I had a feeling the IDF was going to go too far Lanius Nov 2023 #40

Did General Sherman say it was time for a pause when he was marching to the SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #50

Although Sherman is famous for being ruthless and burning Southern cities, LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #58

Although bad things happen TheFarseer Nov 2023 #61

you mean Union forces, the IDF or both? LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #62

I was talking about Union forces TheFarseer Nov 2023 #63

He took all the food and burned their farms and cities. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #64

Killing more than 10,000 isn't avoiding civilian casualties. Lanius Nov 2023 #39

I'm saying that taking the word of the Hamas run Gaza Health Ministry is folly. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #66

how many do you think it is? It surely is in the thousands LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #67

Possibly. And how many of those is Hamas responsible for? SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #68

Hamas bears a huge part of the blame but there should be accountability for every home bombed in Gaza LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #71

Agreed SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #73

Meanwhile in the West Bank - shove those old ladies while taking their houses womanofthehills Nov 2023 #59

The West Bank, formally known as Sameria and Judea for thousands of years. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #65

That's a really unfair comment. n/t EndlessWire Nov 2023 #43

Not enough dead babies yet? Basic LA Nov 2023 #18

If Hamas didn't put them in harms way (on purpose) SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #20

That same argument was used to justify burning down villages in Vietnam Lanius Nov 2023 #41

The international community's rules for war disagrees with your assessment. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #49

This is so obviously collective punishment. David__77 Nov 2023 #24

I'm confused. Why do you assume it's our call to accept/reject this agreement? MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #27

I'm giving my opinion. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #53

You didn't answer my question. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #56

Hamas does not have control over all of the hostages... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #51

Obama fan here, too, and I couldn't agree with you more calimary Nov 2023 #6

i agree.. i was ready to follow obama to a desert island if he set up a colony samnsara Nov 2023 #8

True!! TSExile Nov 2023 #10

And the chatter is now about how that only gives Hamas the chance to reboot. Native Nov 2023 #11

This so sad to against any kind of cease fire. Lives are at risk. sjr2323 Nov 2023 #15

It's just SOP for the media. I'm surprised they haven't started with "only" 50 yet. Native Nov 2023 #17

Did the Germans reboot after Dresden and they surrendered? SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #23

Apparently the nazi reboot just took a little longer... getagrip_already Nov 2023 #26

There is no national Nazi reboot in Germany. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #54

No, it's booting here. Or didnt you notice? Nt getagrip_already Nov 2023 #55

Hamas can't reboot Butterflylady Nov 2023 #29

4 or 5 days is inconsequential. Calista241 Nov 2023 #31

I agree with this. EndlessWire Nov 2023 #44

That's our media for you Bettie Nov 2023 #13

Worse than that he will be blamed Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #14

This is what... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #37

He should care. RandomNumbers Nov 2023 #19

Definitely the greatest President of my lifetime as well PatSeg Nov 2023 #21

Do you think perhaps protesters will stop referring to him sarisataka Nov 2023 #25

Bigger achievement he should get credit for: no widespread regional war or WWIII. I imagine wiggs Nov 2023 #28

Exactly this Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #30

It's not a ceasefire miffelplix Nov 2023 #32

A ceasefire can last for hours, days, weeks, months, or longer. This is a ceasefire. David__77 Nov 2023 #35

Statement from President Biden on the Hostage Release in Gaza LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #36

I know Biden had to back Israel publicly, but he could have been savvier with his wording in the early days of the war Lanius Nov 2023 #42

Mr. Biden has always been underestimated. wyldwolf Nov 2023 #45

Well, I'm crediting him, as are many here. NNadir Nov 2023 #46

Thank you President Biden for the hard work in negotiating this hostage release LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #47

Joe Biden will get little credit but ample blame. hay rick Nov 2023 #48

Headline wryter2000 Nov 2023 #57

Thanks to Joe Biden's inflation TheFarseer Nov 2023 #60

Biden makes great "presidenting" look easy gulliver Nov 2023 #69

The exercises of both extremes will make sure he doesn't 340ing Nov 2023 #70

President Biden's persistent pressure on Middle East leaders was a key factor in sealing the deal LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #72