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AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
17. It's really not so much the warming itself,
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:44 AM
Nov 2012

(IPCC records actually show that we've largely stayed on track for the average predicted increases, and not quite as warm as Hansen predicted back in '88) as more like some of the knock-on effects are coming on quicker than even the scientists predicted, particularly the ice melt in the Arctic.

But instead, once the first warnings were issued, and deliberately "don't want to be too alarmist," oil industry PR kicked into overdrive on so many levels-- starting the "there is lots of doubt" talking points, encouraging more consumption of oil with giant hummers and "Morning in America" thinking-- we're great! we don't have to cut back! -- and all kinds of delay.


Definitely true, and it didn't help that dishonest hacks like Christopher Hooker and others kept claiming that even moderate action on climate change would destroy the world economy(which was and still is blatantly untrue, but I don't expect them to give a fuck anyhow), and many other pieces of bullshit they've been spewing of course.

Thank goodness more people are getting out there to protest and push for change now.


Very true.

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Someday, even America's Democrats are going to have make policy that openly acknowledges villager Nov 2012 #1
Thanks marmar Cha Nov 2012 #2
This is a fucking huge issue. I can't believe we're dorking around while the world melts. Gregorian Nov 2012 #3
Sadly humans rarely doing anything to prepare for the future Marrah_G Nov 2012 #7
My dad taught me as a young child that people only act in a crisis. Kind of cynical, but partly true Gregorian Nov 2012 #8
This is one area where Obama worries me AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #13
No problem. They only provide fresh water for..... Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #4
K&R. It is very sad that the warming is happening much faster than expected. Milder warnings were Overseas Nov 2012 #5
It's really not so much the warming itself, AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #17
Great. MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #6
I don't know whats worse kydo Nov 2012 #9
It was wise of Bill McKibben Bainbridge Bear Nov 2012 #10
..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #18
The point is that as long as we're still around, the planet won't repair itself. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #25
The world has been in crisis on this for a long time so maybe the glinda Nov 2012 #11
Re: "Humans are really a piece of work. Not all humans but many of them." AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #19
this should be a top priority. nt limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #12
No Carbon Tax: Obama RobertEarl Nov 2012 #14
This weekend I saw the movie Chasing Ice HeiressofBickworth Nov 2012 #15
Glaciers, excepting Greenland and Antarctica, could only raise sea levels by about 45 cm. FarCenter Nov 2012 #16
True, but there's still the issue of drinking water, too. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #20
True. This article seems to imply that melting glaciers are the biggest factor in rising oceans KurtNYC Nov 2012 #23
If everybody would stop farting this problem would be solved. live love laugh Nov 2012 #21
Increased violent weather is already here, not some time in the foggy future lunatica Nov 2012 #22
+1000 Hydra Nov 2012 #24
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