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Sat Nov 25, 2023, 11:16 AM Nov 2023

Gaza Civilians Are Being Killed At Historic Rate [View all]

Gaza Civilians, Under Israeli Barrage, Are Being Killed at Historic Pace
In less than two months, more than twice as many women and children have been reported killed in Gaza than in Ukraine after two years of war.


Israel has cast the deaths of civilians in the Gaza Strip as a regrettable but unavoidable part of modern conflict, pointing to the heavy human toll from military campaigns the United States itself once waged in Iraq and Syria.

But a review of past conflicts and interviews with casualty and weapons experts suggest that Israel’s assault is different.

While wartime death tolls will never be exact, experts say that even a conservative reading of the casualty figures reported from Gaza show that the pace of death during Israel’s campaign has few precedents in this century.

People are being killed in Gaza more quickly, they say, than in even the deadliest moments of U.S.-led attacks in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, which were themselves widely criticized by human rights groups.
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Hamas is forcing civilians to stay on the battlefront (at gunpoint) Arazi Nov 2023 #1
I don't understand the Kremlin connection RainWalker Nov 2023 #8
You don't understand the Kremlin connection? yardwork Nov 2023 #14
Thanks for including billionaires in your list. hay rick Nov 2023 #38
I agree! They're the biggest players. They have the money. yardwork Nov 2023 #41
It may have turned out that way, but I doubt your conspiracy theory. Putin has no credibility TeamProg Nov 2023 #40
Every authoritarian and most billionaires benefit by having a fool in the White House. yardwork Nov 2023 #42
That is short term thinking. Economies THRIVE when people are free and democracy is the norm. Look around! TeamProg Nov 2023 #48
What in the world? yardwork Nov 2023 #50
I got ya, you were referring to a "fool" like Trump as POTUS - not some other authoritarian. You are right TeamProg Nov 2023 #58
Right. Putin and others want Trump back in the White House. yardwork Nov 2023 #71
Strongmen don't give a shit about anything but their power, their riches Arazi Nov 2023 #55
I don't, corporations in a free economy do though. I do not worry about the USA becomming TeamProg Nov 2023 #57
I don't know. They might push it too far, though. yardwork Nov 2023 #72
Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #82
Putin is shitstirring all over the planet Arazi Nov 2023 #15
Both are the bad guys RainWalker Nov 2023 #19
You didn't even take one minute to read the links did you? Arazi Nov 2023 #21
NY Times is pay-walled. The NY Times helped BushCo get us ito the War On Irag. 'nuff said. nt TeamProg Nov 2023 #43
Then take the time to read ANY other foreign policy outlet Arazi Nov 2023 #47
Gifted link below. herding cats Nov 2023 #83
That's right. Why is it only "division" to oppose mass killing in Gaza? David__77 Nov 2023 #22
It is only division when you divisively placce the blame Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #36
The article is "divisive" in the sense that some will disagree with its asserted facts or assumed premises. David__77 Nov 2023 #52
The article's assumed premises are divisive regardless of any disagreements. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #60
Simple. Support President Biden. yardwork Nov 2023 #49
I think we're being infiltrated by the Green Party or Party for Liberation and Socialism LeftInTX Nov 2023 #66
Thanks for posting those links. yardwork Nov 2023 #46
Here's a connect the dots primer for Putin's involvement. herding cats Nov 2023 #59
Thank you for posting this. yardwork Nov 2023 #73
I'm all about helping people learn about the plans of Putin herding cats Nov 2023 #84
And you know this how? claudette Nov 2023 #27
It was up to Hamas to make it a battlefield or not. And thet did. They are not making it a secret. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #35
Northern Gaza - a place Israel told the world was going to be the front in their war Arazi Nov 2023 #37
ok claudette Nov 2023 #61
Please educate yourself on the details. They matter Arazi Nov 2023 #62
Historic rate? EX500rider Nov 2023 #2
I think maybe you missed this part RainWalker Nov 2023 #4
Rec malaise Nov 2023 #12
Absolutely correct RainWalker Nov 2023 #13
A rounding error in this century also: EX500rider Nov 2023 #51
Their lies just expose their anti-Israel bias Arazi Nov 2023 #7
Blaming young people isn't going to win us elections RainWalker Nov 2023 #16
Where have I "blamed" young people? Arazi Nov 2023 #18
Here RainWalker Nov 2023 #20
Oh look, you've selectively edited my post Arazi Nov 2023 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Sal_NV Nov 2023 #24
No call for that RainWalker Nov 2023 #29
Take your own advice. Cha Nov 2023 #75
No I was simply illustrating RainWalker Nov 2023 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Sal_NV Nov 2023 #30
Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #32
Why did you selectivly edit the post? Sal_NV Nov 2023 #25
Illustrating what I saw RainWalker Nov 2023 #28
So you misrepresented what was actually posted? Sal_NV Nov 2023 #34
If Hamas surrendered and freed that hostages Tomconroy Nov 2023 #3
I'm not so sure RainWalker Nov 2023 #6
Not just surrendered. Igel Nov 2023 #31
Which Palestinians have rejected over and over and over and over and over elias7 Nov 2023 #86
Predictably, the article doesn't concern itself with identifying the nature of these casualties. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #5
And Israel then said Eko Nov 2023 #74
Nobody consulted Israel. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #78
1st Eko Nov 2023 #85
That's the basic strategy. David__77 Nov 2023 #9
It sure is RainWalker Nov 2023 #10
The pogrom in Israel JustAnotherGen Nov 2023 #11
It certainly was RainWalker Nov 2023 #17
It's just horrific! Goddessartist Nov 2023 #33
Israel is killing more civilians than necessary because of the bombs they choose to use. Lonestarblue Nov 2023 #39
They're trying to collapse tunnels Hamas built under apartments Arazi Nov 2023 #45
The hostages are in the tunnels so collapsing them seems like a mistake questionseverything Nov 2023 #77
Hamas is illegally using hostages as human shields Arazi Nov 2023 #79
It's not just the bomb size. It's also the penning in of non-combatants, allowing no way out. David__77 Nov 2023 #80
The more brutal the Occupation... Basic LA Nov 2023 #44
Of course the only force "occupying" Gaza since the Israeli's withdraw in 2005 is Hamas EX500rider Nov 2023 #54
The rage is still very raw, with good reason. Basic LA Nov 2023 #64
Gaza rso Nov 2023 #53
They should rise up against Hamas. William769 Nov 2023 #56
Taking any numbers reported by Hamas with a huge grain of salt Mountainguy Nov 2023 #63
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And here we have a new born member telling us how to behave. Welcome to DU, I hope. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #68
Don't hope to hard. William769 Nov 2023 #69
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Historic rate? Approximately 1,200 died in Israel in just one day. W_HAMILTON Nov 2023 #67
This story has been widely debunked. It takes Tomconroy Nov 2023 #76
But they're being killed by the good guys, so it doesn't count. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2023 #81
The real death toll in Ukraine is very different than the reported death toll. Crunchy Frog Nov 2023 #87
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