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Prairie Gates

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25. Evanston was brutally redlined as was most of Chicago
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 03:05 PM
Nov 2023

(As a side note, we're not supposed to call Evanston a "suburb." It's a "city," doncha know!)

It would be hard to overestimate the racial housing divide in Evanston. Northwest parts of Evanston are pretty much North Shore communities. You may as well be in Winnetka, Kenilworth, etc. Far southern Evanston is pretty much Chicago, and what many would consider a dangerous and economically challenged part of it. Evanston also has a lot of very rich areas, and a lot of faculty-related areas for Northwestern.

I think the odd thing about it is that there's only the one massive high school (which is, as mopinko points out, one of the most desirable high schools in the state). I do think it's probably odd for a high school to be that big and to serve an area with such vast disparities, and for those disparities to have been pretty obviously caused (in part, of course) by deliberate and systematic racial segregation. And for the high school to be the "zoned" school, essentially.

Which is all to say that this is a fairly complicated situation. I would probably be more on the mopinko side of the debate than the former9thward side.

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And the biracial kids, how they feel Walleye Nov 2023 #1
The "one drop rule" handles that scenario. ret5hd Nov 2023 #2
I'm not sure kids today understand that rule, certainly I never did Walleye Nov 2023 #4
if they're visibly biracial, they'd likely b interested. mopinko Nov 2023 #19
How they identify ? treestar Nov 2023 #22
I don't care what excuse they use, this is racism. If it wasn't, they would separate classes JohnSJ Nov 2023 #3
I tend to agree, I don't like segregation according to gender either Walleye Nov 2023 #5
I support separation by gender but not race. redqueen Nov 2023 #9
Except for the girls who don't fit their idea of feminine role models Walleye Nov 2023 #11
teenage boys can be agressive and dominating to their female peers DBoon Nov 2023 #23
Teenage boys (and girls) can be... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #26
Girls start experiencing sexual harassment in school. redqueen Nov 2023 #54
Absolutely... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #55
THIS!!! Think. Again. Nov 2023 #6
I agree, John. They are separated by race, not by achievement scores. brer cat Nov 2023 #7
Sure the hell is. This is a complete travesty. jimfields33 Nov 2023 #12
I see the word, "voluntarily". Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2023 #42
Voluntarily racism. Isn't that special. A public school has JohnSJ Nov 2023 #50
Y'all have a good night. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2023 #51
You too JohnSJ Nov 2023 #52
Ah, maybe George Wallace was onto something... tritsofme Nov 2023 #8
WTAF. We are going so damn backwards it's scary. Initech Nov 2023 #10
u dont have all the facts if this is scary. mopinko Nov 2023 #18
When people ask me about the public high school where I teach... jcgoldie Nov 2023 #13
these kids will still b surrounded by the rest of the population. mopinko Nov 2023 #17
"Adjacent to" doesn't mean "interact with." Igel Nov 2023 #43
White kids have been taught by teachers of the same race for centuries ripcord Nov 2023 #14
they've already done those things. mopinko Nov 2023 #16
Correlation doesn't imply causation.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #27
OK Sympthsical Nov 2023 #30
oh boy. ok. 1st- this is completely VOLUNTARY. mopinko Nov 2023 #15
Nothing is voluntary at that age and situation. former9thward Nov 2023 #24
that's just silly. mopinko Nov 2023 #31
State sanctioned voluntary segregation is still segregation. Jose Garcia Nov 2023 #20
'state sanctioned'? rly. this decision was made at the school level. parents and educators. mopinko Nov 2023 #32
"State sanctioned" is usually a synonym for "government sanctioned" Igel Nov 2023 #44
it's a big stretch to apply it to the decision of a school community. mopinko Nov 2023 #48
Ironic treestar Nov 2023 #21
Evanston was brutally redlined as was most of Chicago Prairie Gates Nov 2023 #25
I'm having difficulty... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #28
it's no more segregated than the jocks and the nerds. mopinko Nov 2023 #33
I don't think it's a knee-jerk reaction... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #36
r hbcu's segregation? mopinko Nov 2023 #38
Affirmative action is a levelling of the field... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #40
that's what they've been doing. it hasnt worked. mopinko Nov 2023 #47
This is toxic to a cohesive pluralistic society Sympthsical Nov 2023 #29
you dont know this town or this school. mopinko Nov 2023 #35
I do, actually Sympthsical Nov 2023 #46
this is... myohmy2 Nov 2023 #34
do u also disapprove of hbcu's? mopinko Nov 2023 #37
Worthwhile as an experiment. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #39
This "experiment" has already been run... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #49
Meh, this isn't that. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #57
I believe such anxiety... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #58
This is honestly pretty unsettling. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #41
So, they are going to blame race for a faulty education model? Okay. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2023 #45
I understand the concept Zeitghost Nov 2023 #53
I think they're focused on the wrong things ecstatic Nov 2023 #56
everyone saying this is racist The Wandering Harper Nov 2023 #59
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