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341. Not really

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:08 AM

Nov 2012

There's no massive push to discredit creationism that I can see. Creationists have made great strides in America, considering the stupidity of it all.

HOWEVER since 2000-04 I have seen a massive push to discredit ANYONE who suggests that American elections can be stolen, manipulated and compromised.

This is really the RepubliCon Modus Operandi = control the 47% at the ballot box. And they have been very successful in doing that.

There are LOTSA people invested in this system, from the top down. Whenever I see these complaints, I know somebody doesn't want a transparent election system in America. Because--why would there be such a big push back against addressing major voting reforms and bringing America up to world standards? (Duh)

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If Anonymous has definitive proof that Rove tried to hack the vote, present it. [View all] ProSense Nov 2012 OP

Show us the proof, Anony Berlum Nov 2012 #1

Yes, we do. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #2

At least someone who thinks like Data Coyotl Nov 2012 #202

EXCELLENT!!!! Man, LOVED that show! calimary Nov 2012 #251

Love this, thanks for making my day. n/t AnnieK401 Nov 2012 #99

The proof is out there. reusrename Nov 2012 #136

+1 valerief Nov 2012 #184

Not this BS again. Coyotl Nov 2012 #203

Do you actually think you're going to stop people from posting their opinions on this board?.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #233

I'm going to give y'all one more chance to respond. reusrename Nov 2012 #250

Maybe you could choose not to read these threads, instead of being, you know, WinkyDink Nov 2012 #253

Welcome to DU, reusrename! calimary Nov 2012 #291

Always! reusrename Nov 2012 #322

Exactly. It's been proven every way ....statistically, technically, timing, cover-up.... loudsue Nov 2012 #327

+1. Phx_Dem Nov 2012 #357

where's the beef? heaven05 Nov 2012 #219

"He's Occupying the WH at the moment"? What does that mean? nm Cha Nov 2012 #264

small heaven05 Nov 2012 #284

Anonymous is a JOKE!! SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #332

A group like Anon coming forward with details? the group wouldnt survive that pasto76 Nov 2012 #3

Who said they have to come forward? ProSense Nov 2012 #8

Really? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #120

Send it to Mother Jones, Atlantic Monthly and about 1/2 a dozen other news outlets TalkingDog Nov 2012 #162

The foreign press has written about electronically flipping the primary for Romney. reusrename Nov 2012 #170

Do you have a link for that? Son of Gob Nov 2012 #213

Unfortunately, the links have been scrubbed the last time I looked. reusrename Nov 2012 #257

lol AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #315

I found a live link to the article at ukprogressive. reusrename Nov 2012 #336

Yes, and that entire line of logic fails for the following reasons. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #349

It's suddenly become obvious that you don't have a grasp of the question being raised here. reusrename Nov 2012 #361

That quoted bit is the claim being made by the fellow doing this statistical analysis. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #363

We are obviously not talking about the same thing. reusrename Nov 2012 #364

You are not clicking to the idea that the '10%' is an illusion. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #366

yes, peer review is necessary - can't image it taking more than another month or two reusrename Nov 2012 #368

Again, I will believe it when I see it verified. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #371

Obama was not a candidate in the Republican primaries. reusrename Nov 2012 #372

So let's see it independently verified. Peer reviewed. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #373

And published in a scientific journal. reusrename Nov 2012 #374

I found a live link. reusrename Nov 2012 #337

I've been subscribing to Mother Jones & The Atlantic for years... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #172

It's heaven05 Nov 2012 #223

See! heaven05 Nov 2012 #222

"I am completely ignorant when it comes to anything technical" AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #314

Can't answer my questions yourself Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #345

There is absolutely NOTHING more dangerous about sharing the code and logs AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #348

Thank you! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #351

Could easily be some AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #352

I will definitely Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #355

I don't think so, not with so many people on both sides watching. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #360

Sincere thanks, once again. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #362

Agreed. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #171

You are so right. Maybe they rainy Nov 2012 #41

love them anyway. put fear into the one percent roguevalley Nov 2012 #141

They can dump whatever evidence they have on Wikileaks AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #148

All they'd have to do is anonymously send their proof to the FBI. n/t pnwmom Nov 2012 #241

But who is Anon referring to in this video to give info to? Wish they would turn proof over. glinda Nov 2012 #309

I think they would if they'd actually done this pnwmom Nov 2012 #330

I have not passed judgement on this at the moment. glinda Nov 2012 #359

Because Anonymous can rest assured that if such info were provided, MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #4

He's untouchable! n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #9

Like war criminals, no? MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #27

Sure, he's untouchable. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #62

I agree Manny. There is no reason for Anon to expose themselves. I doubt that they have any rhett o rick Nov 2012 #131

'No reason', apart from basic honesty, that is, and a desire not to be complicit muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #353

His untouchability is determined by his masters.But they have a long history of protecting their own rhett o rick Nov 2012 #127

On what fucking planet is Rove going to be prosecuted? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #22

He may not be prosecuted but . . . brush Nov 2012 #143

Kinda like how Mike Connell got his comeuppance when he died in that plane crash... cascadiance Nov 2012 #240

Yeah brush Nov 2012 #256

"Rove would be prosecuted" marions ghost Nov 2012 #37

Indeed, I did. nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #39

Yep..Rove would be prosecuted just like INdemo Nov 2012 #88

THey could at least try treestar Nov 2012 #154

Or Oliy North. Given a fine of $100 and 2 hours community service. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #165

Yep, once the Repukes broke the seal Rex Nov 2012 #210

But they can be assured that they would be. I just love threads like this. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #186

You need to read and listen to Stephen Spoonamore to understand. They did not use the Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #5

That is also just a bunch of BS, just like the current deal, piled higher and deeper Coyotl Nov 2012 #72

certainly no facts this time around Celebration Nov 2012 #94

It is a n incontrovertable fact that the primary was electronically flipped. reusrename Nov 2012 #177

Because you believe it, right? Coyotl Nov 2012 #196

Of course not. reusrename Nov 2012 #246

Look, Karl, you lost this time. Call it "Kerry's Revenge." WinkyDink Nov 2012 #254

What part of Anonymous ... do you not understand? GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #6

What part of conspiracy theory don't you understand? ProSense Nov 2012 #10

I understand sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #29

Perhaps unprovable is the point. sofa king Nov 2012 #227

They can supply the proof to the FBI or any other government official pnwmom Nov 2012 #245

I'm sure Anonymous isn't out to impress you Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #7

"There is 'evidence' in the behavior of Rove on election night." ProSense Nov 2012 #12

Gawd . . . if only that were possible. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #53

Evidence in this case is simple, and necessary: the code alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #15

I predict we will never see the code RomneyLies Nov 2012 #42

That's my suspicion, too alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #56

Precisely RomneyLies Nov 2012 #104

The "anonymous" claims were a joke in my opinion. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #121

Sorry to pop your bubble, but it is science. reusrename Nov 2012 #262

So evidence equals speculation? Riftaxe Nov 2012 #268

Well, I don't know what speculation you are referring to. reusrename Nov 2012 #323

Are you talking about the 2 -count 'em, 2- malfunctioning machines in PA? randome Nov 2012 #333

No. That's not the story. reusrename Nov 2012 #335

The gigantic hole in your evidence jeff47 Nov 2012 #369

That would be a clever response if you had a clue. reusrename Nov 2012 #370

Your first sentence states something that isn't known. jeff47 Nov 2012 #375

I do understand you much better now. You are definitely on the right track. reusrename Nov 2012 #377

The reason you "round up the others" is you have no other reliable measurement. jeff47 Nov 2012 #378

Some clarifications. reusrename Nov 2012 #379

Calculation requires actual data. jeff47 Nov 2012 #380

Yeah, he probably is a dumbshit. reusrename Nov 2012 #381

No, he may very well be right. But he needs to use data to show he is right. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #382

Fair enough. reusrename Nov 2012 #383

what heaven05 Nov 2012 #287

Two machines in PA. Out of thousands nationwide. randome Nov 2012 #288

okey dokey heaven05 Nov 2012 #294

That could be. reusrename Nov 2012 #326

I don't honestly know if that was a key element.. reusrename Nov 2012 #324

Statistical abnormalities are real, but they are indirect evidence D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #310

Well, I agree with your claim, but this isn't really a statistical abnormality, it's an algorithm. reusrename Nov 2012 #325

Wouldn't there be some evidence marions ghost Nov 2012 #64

It's remarkable that one of the most exacting scientific practices there is (programming) alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #70

Could you give me a binary answer please? marions ghost Nov 2012 #85

Exactly treestar Nov 2012 #158

Yes, it would all be right there on the log files, plain as day. Coyotl Nov 2012 #81

And Vanity Fair? marions ghost Nov 2012 #87

You're closer to getting this than most. Computer science forensics could find the AikidoSoul Nov 2012 #150

"There is evidence" -- Where is this "evidence"? NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #65

And then Anonymous gets no credit treestar Nov 2012 #155

Of course they are. pnwmom Nov 2012 #242

Where's the code? Where's the code? Where's the code? Where's the code? alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #11

Shouldn't be up to Anonymous to prove it marions ghost Nov 2012 #75

Nor is it up to zealots to prove their god exists because they already know he does Coyotl Nov 2012 #86

God? marions ghost Nov 2012 #92

Your little laughing guy doesn't mask your disturbed anger. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #255

Of course it should -- if they're not just making up a good story pnwmom Nov 2012 #243

"Credit for Romney's loss" marions ghost Nov 2012 #267

Precisely. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #317

I'm fairly certain... 99Forever Nov 2012 #13

Strange ProSense Nov 2012 #14

Really? 99Forever Nov 2012 #21

"Then why do you feel compelled to respond?" ProSense Nov 2012 #24

It's not ProSense who "demands" it. It's basic modern scientific claim-making alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #19

Anonymous doesn't... 99Forever Nov 2012 #26

"Get over it. Neither of you are that important." ProSense Nov 2012 #36

I'm not the one making demands of someone I don't even know. 99Forever Nov 2012 #48

"Get over it" ProSense Nov 2012 #55

Have fun tilting at windmills. 99Forever Nov 2012 #66

Demand: "Get over it" ProSense Nov 2012 #69

When you are leaning over to believe something, it looks like others are tilting Coyotl Nov 2012 #91

Whatever you say, buddy. 99Forever Nov 2012 #96

But you are willing to trust these people you don't know to have done something AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #319

Is that what I said? 99Forever Nov 2012 #342

Has nothing to do with me alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #44

Release the Code... Hell yeah! RobertEarl Nov 2012 #214

All the more reason for Anonymous to release it if they know it alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #220

Why don't your officials release it? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #225

Why are they suddenly "my" officials alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #226

Obviously you do not RobertEarl Nov 2012 #229

Wait, are you Anonymous? alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #230

So, you agree the code is not transparent RobertEarl Nov 2012 #234

Of course the code is secret alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #236

"Without code as evidence, of course not." RobertEarl Nov 2012 #239

Sorry Robert, the fact that elections in our country have problems D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #312

It would not be easy for anon to prove thesquanderer Nov 2012 #247

Release the code and describe its function alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #260

Do you have any idea what it takes to develop software for embedded systems? AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #320

They're super-heroes. They can do anything. randome Nov 2012 #334

I took no position on that thesquanderer Nov 2012 #339

If they released code that can be proven to still be ON the machines AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #346

Exactly. Trying to rudely "kill" the messenger. didn't work. nm Cha Nov 2012 #271

well heaven05 Nov 2012 #292

Shame on you!! pocoloco Nov 2012 #146

Are you more important than we are? treestar Nov 2012 #160

That's because Anonymous is mostly just a PR campaign. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #318

Sorry dood. 99Forever Nov 2012 #343

Uh huh. That's why when I patch code, I can show the before/after edits and explain why. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #347

Wow dooooood... 99Forever Nov 2012 #350

And you have a list of "disinterested third parties" Stevepol Nov 2012 #32

Any good programmer could replicate and verify alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #35

Science is one thing, reality is another. Stevepol Nov 2012 #216

does anonymous make you upset? argiel1234 Nov 2012 #278

No, Anonymous does not upset me at all alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #279

anon does not answer to you...that is the beauty argiel1234 Nov 2012 #280

Whether Anonymous answers to me is beside the point alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #281

anon scares your worldview argiel1234 Nov 2012 #283

Sure. Every time a CT gains traction on DU, the people asking questions are said to be 'scared'. randome Nov 2012 #290

anon will come at it again.. argiel1234 Nov 2012 #293

That's the proof? That we won an election? randome Nov 2012 #295

We won because anonymous didnt allow electronic voting fraud argiel1234 Nov 2012 #296

You have no evidence of that. Neither does Anonymous. randome Nov 2012 #297

exactly heaven05 Nov 2012 #34

I'm 100% certain RomneyLies Nov 2012 #45

Worst than a fairy tale, it is disinformation supporting disinformation, intended to deceive voters Coyotl Nov 2012 #95

It reminds me of faith in the supernatural. Proof is irrelevant, the Savior is coming. freshwest Nov 2012 #139

I've been putting the cultists on ignore RomneyLies Nov 2012 #142

Might as well. Going in circles, like arguing with repukes. Just believe, it'll all gonna happen! freshwest Nov 2012 #192

Precisely. Parsimony and skepticism are practically a lost art. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #321

And most people don't give a flying fuck about Anonymous' claims treestar Nov 2012 #159

any evidence Anonymous may have was illegally acquired Evasporque Nov 2012 #16

Great, one conspiracy theory and two crooks? ProSense Nov 2012 #20

You're thinking of law enforcement agencies. JimDandy Nov 2012 #169

How the information is obtained doesn't matter to the media, HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #180

Anonymous is not a part of the government, so the evidence would be admissible. The problem Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #187

ORCA is a smokescreen; wrong place to look. Atman Nov 2012 #17

Then the evidence ProSense Nov 2012 #28

Why would it be "easy" to find? Atman Nov 2012 #61

"why would they be looking at Husted software patches?" ProSense Nov 2012 #74

yes or no? heaven05 Nov 2012 #18

I love the idea of a deterrent ProSense Nov 2012 #31

Ya...that's sure to happen. CanSocDem Nov 2012 #189

Yeah! Who needs pesky facts or evidence? NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #58

Ego heaven05 Nov 2012 #103

Apparently facts are a terrible thing to waste on you as well NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #113

your heaven05 Nov 2012 #117

Any thinking person would want facts. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #151

and heaven05 Nov 2012 #191

Well, keep spreading the meme that Democrats can't win NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #212

Oh please. heaven05 Nov 2012 #218

If Rove created this whole false flag, how is Rove deterred by it? Coyotl Nov 2012 #97

Anonymous will provide proof in 24 business hours. msanthrope Nov 2012 #23

NO HE'S NOT!!!! heaven05 Nov 2012 #38

She. And my ego has nothing to do with this--either Anonymous msanthrope Nov 2012 #52

Hey, Orly Taitz is much more believeable than this cup of tea Coyotl Nov 2012 #102

I heaven05 Nov 2012 #107

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #46

Can the hymns be far behind? A favorite: msanthrope Nov 2012 #57

There was no vote hacking in 2004 RomneyLies Nov 2012 #25

There was a commission that found several irregularies, including ProSense Nov 2012 #47

Now that is funny marions ghost Nov 2012 #101

Funny how easy it was to hack punch cards in 2004 Coyotl Nov 2012 #105

I agree they should release all proof of vote hacking. boston bean Nov 2012 #30

This just in: ProSense stands up for poor put upon Karl Rove who has been accused of evildoing Fumesucker Nov 2012 #33

This just in: Prove Rove is a criminal not a myth or a legend ProSense Nov 2012 #40

Bravo RomneyLies Nov 2012 #49

Rove has far too much dirt on our political system to ever go to court Fumesucker Nov 2012 #63

He's an evil genius, untouchable ProSense Nov 2012 #71

Rove is the Devil; Anonymous is God...It's time to leave the faith-reasoning to the theologians alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #73

You think TPTB are going to let Rove sing in the courtroom? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #84

+1000 heaven05 Nov 2012 #43

Rove is laughing too. ProSense Nov 2012 #50

So is Bush and co. aandegoons Nov 2012 #108

Rove just lost $300 million dollars, and his funders are not happy ProSense Nov 2012 #111

Oh I would love to see it. aandegoons Nov 2012 #119

Right On bahrbearian Nov 2012 #78

Too many fumes maybe? Coyotl Nov 2012 #109

I'm not falling for anything Fumesucker Nov 2012 #115

You Madam seem to be defending Rove bahrbearian Nov 2012 #147

I am defending Rove. I think he failed all by himself w/o any help from a bullshit story! Coyotl Nov 2012 #188

Even Rove cannot be convicted without evidence treestar Nov 2012 #164

no shit. blind and unquestioning partisonship no matter which party makes for strange bedfellows!" boilerbabe Nov 2012 #178

as their slogan says - "we are anonymous, we are legion" quinnox Nov 2012 #51

I helped investigate 2004. IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #54

Exactly bahrbearian Nov 2012 #76

Yes, exactly: ProSense Nov 2012 #89

Just like the banks were held accountable for this depression? MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #125

"Just like the banks were held accountable for this depression?" ProSense Nov 2012 #129

Sounds like your defending Rove from slander , thats Too funny. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #145

Not to me, it doesn't.. It sounds like she's asking for accountability and for that Cha Nov 2012 #275

I helped investigate 2004. Coyotl Nov 2012 #116

So "the people in charge" were interested. Then what? rhett o rick Nov 2012 #238

Blah Blah Blah Fence rider Nov 2012 #59

You are correct. They need to put up or shut up. If they cannot or will not provide proof, patricia92243 Nov 2012 #60

If Velvet Revolution didn't have a DONATE button, would this "Election Fraud" even exist? Coyotl Nov 2012 #67

If... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #68

+1, I agree 100%. tammywammy Nov 2012 #83

I'm inclined to see this as a horse's head in the bed starroute Nov 2012 #77

Wouldn't this be better peddled on Free Republic? nt NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #79

Yeah, they're all into evidence. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #82

How to Rig An American Election - A 10 Page Historical Analysis, Harpers Melinda Nov 2012 #80

How would you explain the massive push ongoing by some here NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #100

Easy to explain Coyotl Nov 2012 #122

Whenever there's a massive push marions ghost Nov 2012 #273

There has been a massive push to discredit creationism, D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #316

A "lack of interest" in a topic NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #340

Two points. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #384

Not really marions ghost Nov 2012 #341

I suppose it depends on where you are looking. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #385

Because the truth is important to some people. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #367

PLEASE PEOPLE read this article!!! marions ghost Nov 2012 #106

I still think they stole Ohio in 2004 edhopper Nov 2012 #90

Me too, and I know exactly how they did it and who did. That's why I know this is BS thru and thru Coyotl Nov 2012 #124

Are you saying that edhopper Nov 2012 #128

The President's narrow victories in numerous states laid to rest the issue grantcart Nov 2012 #93

anonymous heaven05 Nov 2012 #98

Blind faith without evidence is no protection. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #193

I heaven05 Nov 2012 #198

Voter supression makes a fix possible. JimDandy Nov 2012 #197

If Rove is EVER prosecuted, Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #110

+1000 heaven05 Nov 2012 #112

"If you think the Dems are lily white in the area of voter fraud, I have a bridge to sell you." ProSense Nov 2012 #123

My bad. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #126

exactly heaven05 Nov 2012 #344

The anonymous claim that it hacked into Rove's vote-tampering JDPriestly Nov 2012 #114

K&R arely staircase Nov 2012 #118

If you want "evidence" vote for someone who will give you "investigations" Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #130

Just maybe this anonymous stuff is all made up. longship Nov 2012 #132

Snicker nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #133

No, Anonymous is not going to take the risk.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #134

"Where's your evidence Anonymous was not able to do what they claimed to have done?" ProSense Nov 2012 #137

LOL. You're normally a smart poster, but you just don't get Anonymous, do you? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #231

Right. There is no way for them... Wait Wut Nov 2012 #149

There is plent of evidence from 2000 on why does the Obama administration need aandegoons Nov 2012 #135

And if the Republicans win in 2016 RomneyLies Nov 2012 #138

The real problem with the bogus Anon Rove Idiocy is Coyotl Nov 2012 #140

Where is the evidence that Anonymous claims they hacked the election toddaa Nov 2012 #144

This is the most sensible "no they didn't" post in this thread. I suspect you are 100% correct, Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #331

They have said enough that any competent ivestigative/intelligence organization should be able geckosfeet Nov 2012 #152

Totally agreed treestar Nov 2012 #153

Karl we are watching pipewrench Nov 2012 #156

"We watched as Karl�s speared ORCA" ProSense Nov 2012 #161

It started... DirtyDawg Nov 2012 #157

I prefer that Anonymous keep their info to themselves Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #163

Yup, better to protect the crooks from being investigated. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #168

Exactly meanit Nov 2012 #221

We the people have the right to bring to light from the shadows. Hutzpa Nov 2012 #166

Rove's behavior to me proves he lalalu Nov 2012 #167

Does anyone seriously think Rove did NOT try to tamper with the results? HopeHoops Nov 2012 #173

I thought the statement explained that. sofa king Nov 2012 #174

Great post. go west young man Nov 2012 #313

Responses indicate that we're pretty scattered on this election fraud issue. Gregorian Nov 2012 #175

Anonymous and tactics The Traveler Nov 2012 #176

What Sort of Evidence? Skraxx Nov 2012 #179

That's why she's asking for it Fumesucker Nov 2012 #183

"Seriously, there's really nothing they could present to prove their claims." ProSense Nov 2012 #185

Yes, What Do You Think Would Suffice to "Prove" Their Claims? Skraxx Nov 2012 #201

There's always a counterclaim to any evidence alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #228

Just Because People Believe It's PLAUSIBLE Doesn't Mean People Believe It Definitely Happened Skraxx Nov 2012 #298

There isn't even circumstantial evidence. randome Nov 2012 #299

Where Do I Make That Assumption? Skraxx Nov 2012 #300

Then I apologize. randome Nov 2012 #301

Of Course We Won It For Who We Are, No Doubt Skraxx Nov 2012 #302

Sorry but that's not their job. They have brought forth suspicions that this happened. Cleita Nov 2012 #181

You don't start investigations based on anonymous suspicions. ProSense Nov 2012 #182

I think there is more than a loony suspicion here. I believe a warrant to investigate the Cleita Nov 2012 #190

exactly heaven05 Nov 2012 #195

That has nothing ProSense Nov 2012 #199

Got it. Cleita Nov 2012 #200

Here's what I know having watched this closely at the time re: Ohio + Anonymous flamingdem Nov 2012 #194

Oh, THIS is an interesting post Flamingdem Matariki Nov 2012 #217

There has been proof since 2000, and during every election since. there are books and movies on the s robinlynne Nov 2012 #204

DU rec...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #205

Rove is dogshit, he is out of the loop Rex Nov 2012 #206

That would be suicide. CBS news: Republican IT Guru Dies In Plane Crash Zorra Nov 2012 #207

Who would get killed? n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #209

That's what nobody wants to find out. nt Zorra Nov 2012 #308

BIG Money plays for keeps. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #259

If it would have been me who did it InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #208

Here's my two cents. The people who would know for sure have enough info, rzemanfl Nov 2012 #211

Rec. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #215

Interesting thought experiments: what evidence would satisfy vote fraud coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #224

I will go much more modest: what evidence would convince me of this particular claim alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #232

I really think anonymous/wikileaks/Fitrakis jumped the gun, understandably they believed flamingdem Nov 2012 #235

Fair enough. I'm a big believer in Occam's Razor and, barring presentation coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #237

What if the point is that the evidence can't be produced? sofa king Nov 2012 #258

That's fine...I've said throughout this thread that there's nothing wrong with alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #261

I'll bet we can agree on this, too: sofa king Nov 2012 #358

You need to look at the stuff Mike Collins has published on algorithmic vote flipping. reusrename Nov 2012 #269

I'm sure Anon will give us the whole story when, where and how they want to. They keep their id's judesedit Nov 2012 #244

I am perfectly happy James48 Nov 2012 #248

Congressman John Conyers had plenty of evidence eyewall Nov 2012 #249

What if it can no longer BE proven, being a transitory and random hacking program? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #252

that is what is great about anonymous argiel1234 Nov 2012 #263

one part of me thinks maindawg Nov 2012 #265

Give me a break! RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #266

No, ProSense Nov 2012 #270

So you do not believe that reveling the code RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #338

Agree with you marions ghost Nov 2012 #272

Wow. I'm surprised so many people are falling for this. aletier_v Nov 2012 #274

Well, why don't you elucidate just HOW it "was a joke," m-kay? Rove wasn't & isn't laughing. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #276

That technical description? It's Wizard of Oz mumbo jumbo. aletier_v Nov 2012 #277

So...you're Anonymous? OMG! All this time and we didn't know! randome Nov 2012 #285

Your concern about Rove is touching argiel1234 Nov 2012 #289

Anonymous won't be Anonymous bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #282

*Ahem* CLINT CURTIS, anybody? TrollBuster9090 Nov 2012 #286

And? ProSense Nov 2012 #303

Agreed! TrollBuster9090 Nov 2012 #307

Recommended. William769 Nov 2012 #304

It's the left-wing version of Bengazhi NightOwwl Nov 2012 #305

In olden days code was released PATRICK Nov 2012 #306

On the other hand... MrMickeysMom Nov 2012 #311

I haven't found really anything on Rove on AnonNews which is interesting. rightsideout Nov 2012 #328

"This isn't a movie.....This is real life, and Rove needs to be investigated if merrily Nov 2012 #329

Because we all accept Romney lied to American voters muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #354

Accepting that Romney was lying does not mean he was not also a felon. merrily Nov 2012 #356

The OP isn't about an investigation of Anonymous, though muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #365

Thank you for that SENSible post, ProSense. closeupready Nov 2012 #376