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Irish_Dem

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19. Suicide 7 more likely for males with a gun in the home. 35 times higher for women.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 06:02 PM
Nov 2023

According to a Stanford research study.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/handgun-ownership-associated-with-much-higher-suicide-risk.html

Thank you for bringing this up Walleye. It is a public service.

My strong advice: If you have a friend or family member who is suicidal, get guns out of the home asap.

When I was in clinical practice as a therapist, this is one of the first things I did when evaluating/treating
a patient with serious suicidal thoughts. Called the family, explained the situation, and
asked that all guns be removed during treatment, at least until the patient was stable and low risk.
Preferably never have one in the home again.

Sometime the family refused, saying I was "violating their rights" by just asking asking them to
remove the guns.

I explained that I had a duty to warn and protect as per our state's licensing/professional laws.
I would be violating the law if I did not make the call and insist the guns be removed. I also did
not tolerate their refusal and pointed out that if they got me tangled up in violation of state law,
and in fact their family member died, we would all be going to court together.

100% of the time, they either agreed on the spot or called me the next day, apologized and told me the
guns had been removed. I insisted on time and date of removal, where the guns were being stored,
name of responsible person and documented all of it.

That is how serious I took the gun situation in my practice when treating suicidal patients.
Because the risk of death was so damn high with a gun in the home.

Then the state politicians talked about making it illegal for healthcare professionals to ask
about guns in the home. So we are supposed to let patients kill themselves.
Luckily this law did not get passed. Because if it had, I would be looking for a new career field.
I am not going to stand by and let people shoot themselves to death on my watch.

I had a 40 year career as a therapist and I never lost one patient to suicide, no homicides either.
How did I do that? I am perfectly nice, laid back, reasonable therapist until lives are in danger and
then I run a very tight ship. If they followed my clinical advice, everyone would stay safe.
And they did. Thank God.

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Not Dealing With Trauma from COVID Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #1
I have read that a suicide is five times as likely to happen in a home with a gun in it Walleye Nov 2023 #2
Guns facilitate impulsive suicide. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #12
Same here. All the suicides by people I knew personally were by firearm. yardwork Nov 2023 #13
Suicide 7 more likely for males with a gun in the home. 35 times higher for women. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #19
Excellent info and good job on your part. And there are more guns every day in the US Walleye Nov 2023 #21
The suicide rate will increase and continue to do so. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #23
Omg ... we have to do more for Native Americans redqueen Nov 2023 #3
Absolutely Bayard Nov 2023 #9
... redqueen Nov 2023 #11
That was so searingly sad. Bundbuster Nov 2023 #22
Native Americans have the highest suicide rates of any ethnic or racial group in the US. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #24
Absolutely! yardwork Nov 2023 #14
Gun control Johnny2X2X Nov 2023 #4
The method of suicide would be illuminating. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #5
CDC data: dalton99a Nov 2023 #6
Thank you for posting these illuminating graphs. yardwork Nov 2023 #15
Most US Gun deaths are suicide dwnsouth Nov 2023 #18
in 2021, 4% of gun deaths were accidental guns deaths. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #25
Wow. This is not a graph of a healthy society. CrispyQ Nov 2023 #7
The age distribution is similar in other countries dalton99a Nov 2023 #8
Interesting. CrispyQ Nov 2023 #27
Odd that the death by suicide rate is lower for 65-74 than decade before it and the one after it. elocs Nov 2023 #29
A close friend was one of those 50,000 last year. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #10
I'm so sorry for your loss. yardwork Nov 2023 #16
Yours as well. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #17
We are not at fault, but it's easy to feel that way. yardwork Nov 2023 #20
Survivor guilt is common. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #26
Any statistics on palatial party affiliation ? republianmushroom Nov 2023 #28
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