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112. Thank you for the correction. The generally reported number is 15,000 total deaths

Tue Dec 5, 2023, 09:05 AM

Dec 2023

and the number of women and children is estimated at 10,000. I suppose that I should be greatly relieved, that only 2/3 the total number killed were innocent victims. Israel is making war on the the people of Gaza, if they happen to kill Hamas victims, so much the better.

In the neighborhood of 10,000 innocent people killed and you choose to challenge the numbers rather than adress the conduct of the "war." Israel is not making war, they are slaughtering the population of Gaza and rendering the infastructure incapable of supporting the survivors. It my opinion, the way they are handling the "war" is criminal.

Israel is not justified in committing a pogram because it happend to them in the last century. Gaza has suffered too much, it is time to end the killing.

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Is criticism of Israel antisemitic? [View all] WarGamer Dec 2023 OP

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Who is "they"? NCIndie Dec 2023 #4

Those in power to make decisions about the Palestinians ? WarGamer Dec 2023 #5

Those in power in Gaza paleotn Dec 2023 #34

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Hamas. They're talking about Hamas. Who else? AnrothElf Dec 2023 #64

The billionaire terrorists roosting in Qatar have the power lapucelle Dec 2023 #80

Israeli leaders like Netanyahu who has bowed to prevent Palestinians from ever having a state. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #19

Posts saying Israel has no right to exist would be deleted NCIndie Dec 2023 #20

We can't presume racism underlying any or every post that is expressing horror at mass casualties of any population MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #39

Agree 100% NCIndie Dec 2023 #43

Funny! That's not unlike the saying "When did you stop beating your wife?" Do you see what I mean? To create a scenario TeamProg Dec 2023 #47

It's nothing like that. NCIndie Dec 2023 #92

What I said is pretty much it. False accusations. TeamProg Dec 2023 #99

Sure. Have a conversation with yourself. NCIndie Dec 2023 #101

I would, but you keep talking! TeamProg Dec 2023 #108

Referring to Palestine as internment camps is antisemitic. yardwork Dec 2023 #32

Does that make terrorism OK? Just checking. paleotn Dec 2023 #37

There is very little in this paragraph marybourg Dec 2023 #49

The word "exterminating" when used to describe Israelis is considered antisemitic. yardwork Dec 2023 #29

Is there a rule that only non-Jews can be guilty of estermination? MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #38

It's not a rule. Human rights groups consider this usage to be antisemitic. yardwork Dec 2023 #40

The stated objective of Hamas is to exterminate Jews. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #66

The stated goal of Israeli govt. is to destroy Hamas MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #142

No that is Hezbollah territory TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #148

Ahhhh...Islamophobia raises it's ugly head. brush Dec 2023 #157

Hamas and its supporters certainly exist in the West Bank tritsofme Dec 2023 #151

Strawman Sympthsical Dec 2023 #2

I think the knuckle dragging Jew haters... the neo Nazis and extremists of all flavors are a small minority WarGamer Dec 2023 #3

Open your eyes. They are not some vanishingly small minority Sympthsical Dec 2023 #6

When yo look at someone in the street shouting abusive comments... WarGamer Dec 2023 #7

Can both be true? NCIndie Dec 2023 #8

Indie - It appears that you're new here. I gave up a long time ago trying to express sentiments like yours..... EarnestPutz Dec 2023 #127

It's gotten to where I cringe when someone says, "Welcome to DU" NCIndie Dec 2023 #130

You're welcome. EarnestPutz Dec 2023 #141

The Palestinian problem gives them the excuse that they need to justify their hatred. GoneOffShore Dec 2023 #12

Exactly my thoughts Mossfern Dec 2023 #28

Look, you're just advertising you're unfamiliar with this stuff Sympthsical Dec 2023 #70

Sympthsical -- just wanted to thank you for your contributions to this thread Hekate Dec 2023 #73

Thanks, I appreciate it Sympthsical Dec 2023 #74

Boom. yardwork Dec 2023 #121

They are taking JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #71

The Netherlands? Is it acceptable to be racist in Holland? brush Dec 2023 #158

When yo look at someone in the street shouting abusive comments Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #90

Worse has happened in Yemen, Syria , and many other places JI7 Dec 2023 #102

The U.S. abandoned our allies the Kurds to likely genocide. yardwork Dec 2023 #122

Absolutely. It ain't who or how many are being killed...it's who's doing the killing that has everyone's hair on fire. CincyDem Dec 2023 #156

No, I must not. It all spends the same. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #149

Or are they clueless. And know zero of any history NoRethugFriends Dec 2023 #153

Why do you think that is? Chainfire Dec 2023 #16

and for the survivors, their whole world is destroyed. MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #45

Germany JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #72

A lot of money, education, and an occupation by Allied forces went into that MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #144

They also JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #146

The non-Jewish Germans who cleaned up their act MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #160

I agree about Hamas and Nazis MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #161

Hamas terrorist billionaires living the high life in Qatar should pay. lapucelle Dec 2023 #129

Well, they should. is anyone going after them? MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #145

"15,000 women and children" Wow, so all the suspect numbers reported by Hamas are now just women & children? EX500rider Dec 2023 #54

Thank you for the correction. The generally reported number is 15,000 total deaths Chainfire Dec 2023 #112

I believe the numbers are a unknown EX500rider Dec 2023 #115

You dispute the numbers of killed, then what numbers would you suggest as an alternative? Chainfire Dec 2023 #125

As I said, as the only number come from a terrorist group with lots of reasons to lie it is unknown EX500rider Dec 2023 #132

Ok, that is your guess. Fair enough, are you happy with the thought that only 5,000 women and children Chainfire Dec 2023 #133

The relief orgs and the UN have just passed along Hamas numbers EX500rider Dec 2023 #134

I will not quibble with you over the exact number. The rest of the message is stil the same. Chainfire Dec 2023 #136

"It is a human disaster." Wars usually are EX500rider Dec 2023 #137

There is a rise in antisemetism but it's not the people you are attacking MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #51

I see antisemitism across the political spectrum today and in full view Kennah Dec 2023 #105

I hope you see the people who in solidarity with Jews are against it MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #143

Absolutely Kennah Dec 2023 #159

Talk to HAMAS they Violated the Ceasefire. Cha Dec 2023 #25

Obviously the number of antisemites is larger than you thought. yardwork Dec 2023 #30

Like the "compassion and empathy" toward random Jewish shopkeepers just selling falafels? Hekate Dec 2023 #76

I think the knuckle dragging Jew haters, the neo Nazis and extremists of all flavors Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #89

War is ugly... no doubt about that. Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #117

Remember the people who were carrying tikki torches and chanting 'Jews may not replace me" MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #42

The far left and far right bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #9

Nauseatingly true Hekate Dec 2023 #77

Referring to him as Nuttyahoo kind of diminishes your credentials as an expert on antisemitism. n/t CincyDem Dec 2023 #10

I'm not an expert... that's why I posted the linked article from an expert. WarGamer Dec 2023 #11

He is a fascist and a hardcore racist. David__77 Dec 2023 #13

I have not seen any - any at all Mossfern Dec 2023 #31

I haven't either. Not one. yardwork Dec 2023 #35

I support Bibi Kennah Dec 2023 #106

Don't forget... Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #14

This Hekate Dec 2023 #78

Worst components of Godwin's Law are being realized Kennah Dec 2023 #107

No. MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #15

When they attack and deface a Jewish deli with anti-Semitic slurs, is that just "anti-Bibi"? tritsofme Dec 2023 #17

I am speaking for myself in my post. MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #88

Wait...is anyone here defending that disgusting action? electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #104

I believe most of the posts have been removed, but yes, it was quite a disgusting display tritsofme Dec 2023 #123

Ok. good. electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #140

The Israeli SC is a mess. Igel Dec 2023 #52

What they need to do is put together a bipartisan commission Mosby Dec 2023 #113

... lapucelle Dec 2023 #82

Israel didnt lock millions of people in an "open air prison". Mosby Dec 2023 #18

Gaza is an open-air prison. Israel controls their water, their food, the Internet, their lives. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #21

Does Israel control the Gaza border with Egypt? EX500rider Dec 2023 #57

Yes IronLionZion Dec 2023 #124

But I keep seeing JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #69

A closed border is not a prison TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #162

The lies about 'genocide', 'war crimes' and 'open air prisons,' Tomconroy Dec 2023 #111

No. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. Are some people antisemitic? Yes. Autumn Dec 2023 #22

Happy to rec this post. yardwork Dec 2023 #27

Nope Faux pas Dec 2023 #23

Always the opposing teams Roy Rolling Dec 2023 #24

Sorry to be anal, but, no he did not. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #139

Criticism of Israel doesn't have to be antisemitic but lots of it is. yardwork Dec 2023 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #33

No. Polly Hennessey Dec 2023 #36

Is criticism of Italy anti-Catholic? Basic LA Dec 2023 #41

No ..... I am Not anti semetic !!!i think israel has commitedcrimes just like all countries Trueblue1968 Dec 2023 #44

Like any massively large, complex situation, some forms most definitely are and some forms most definitely are not. Celerity Dec 2023 #46

It's not deep or morally correct lately, but it's usually not antisemitic. gulliver Dec 2023 #48

For me personally: grumpyduck Dec 2023 #50

Simply put, BidenRocks Dec 2023 #55

No. If you can't criticize someone who you think is doing something wrong, what can you do? patphil Dec 2023 #56

And nobody is doing that. It's a straw man. yardwork Dec 2023 #60

I recently remarked... GiqueCee Dec 2023 #58

Exactly. yardwork Dec 2023 #61

Meaning of antisemitic Ksout Dec 2023 #59

It's just a Google away KS Toronado Dec 2023 #68

Here ya go Mossfern Dec 2023 #75

Dictionaries are helpful. lapucelle Dec 2023 #84

Yes. marble falls Dec 2023 #85

The term is specifically associated with Jews. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #126

There are ample oil and gas reserves for Gaza. GreenWave Dec 2023 #62

True, but crying "genocide" is. And "Free Palestine from the river to the sea" is. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #63

No ismnotwasm Dec 2023 #65

Everything is ForgedCrank Dec 2023 #67

Not at all. Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #79

Bernie criticizing Israel - from Senate floor today womanofthehills Dec 2023 #81

Bernie Sanders is a Jewish American politician. Emile Dec 2023 #150

Depends upon the criticism. NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #83

Obviously, you didn't read the article to the end. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #86

Not sure what you're reading... WarGamer Dec 2023 #93

I am reading your post prior to your edit at 11:03 pm, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #95

You're trying REALLY hard to paint me as something I'm not... and it's not fair. WarGamer Dec 2023 #96

It was easy. I had help. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #97

Absolutely NOT! Jilly_in_VA Dec 2023 #87

Interesting. H2O Man Dec 2023 #91

I think most people understand... WarGamer Dec 2023 #94

Right. H2O Man Dec 2023 #98

No. treestar Dec 2023 #100

Only when they're wrong. Iggo Dec 2023 #103

Sadly, the point of the article you posted isn't in the excerpt you shared. herding cats Dec 2023 #109

Both sides are evil. Lunabell Dec 2023 #110

Nope Chakaconcarne Dec 2023 #114

No! DenaliDemocrat Dec 2023 #116

Criticism of Israel is necessary. David__77 Dec 2023 #118

If we criticize US government policy do we hate America? IronLionZion Dec 2023 #119

Jon Stewart said SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #120

How many claudette Dec 2023 #128

As with anything, the answer is... "it depends" Caliman73 Dec 2023 #131

No! We criticize the US, we can criticize other countries. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #135

You can NEVER say anything negative about Israel bif Dec 2023 #138

False. The actual issue is so many struggle to TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #154

no pfitz59 Dec 2023 #147

Nope walkingman Dec 2023 #152

No. But it's often used as a disguise. egduj Dec 2023 #155