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Chi67

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80. Honestly?

Wed Dec 6, 2023, 01:38 AM

Dec 2023

It's not that hard to look "over there" anymore. Hamas is terrible, no doubt. But Israel's reaction is insane. In my whole life, I have never seen anything like this. How much blood do you need? How many people need to die to make you feel better?

I survived the AIDS epidemic in the 80s as a gay man. Would I be justified in killing every Republican who ever existed because of all the horrible things they did? Because, trust me, they did a LOT. I lost a lot of friends because they would not even allow research into HIV/AIDS. Tons of lives were lost back then.

But this upsets you after years of bullshit on both sides? Is this what keeps you up at night? Revenge? What innocent Palestinian has ever hurt you?

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How hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women, Rep. Jayapal? [View all] mcar Dec 2023 OP

I have no words for her hypocrisy. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #1

Odd. I saw nothing hypocritical in her comments. NCIndie Dec 2023 #4

Odd, I saw plenty of hypocrisy in her statements. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #7

A simple google search will yield a lot of results. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #11

A simple read from your simple google search says that it's a "RARITY" nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #64

Again, very odd. NCIndie Dec 2023 #16

I have no idea about her history of condemning rape. NCIndie Dec 2023 #2

She makes one quick comment about condemning Hamas mcar Dec 2023 #6

She condemned the rape of Israeli women by Hamas at least three times in the clip. NCIndie Dec 2023 #18

Every comment was this is bad, but mcar Dec 2023 #22

So, the answer to my question is "yes"? Fair enough. NCIndie Dec 2023 #25

Do not put words in my mouth mcar Dec 2023 #27

LOL!!!! I asked you a sincere question, and your response was your answer. NCIndie Dec 2023 #30

That woman being raped is wrong but... MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #85

Wow. That was really disappointing. NCIndie Dec 2023 #86

Good. That's how I felt about your reply. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #87

Aspirational mediocrity. That's an impressive goal. NCIndie Dec 2023 #90

Condemning it without qualifiers. It's not hard. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #92

Very poor answer! You are right on track in achieving your goal. NCIndie Dec 2023 #93

Look at you trying to twist yourself into a logical pretzel to justify her comments. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Dec 2023 #29

I don't either. demmiblue Dec 2023 #10

It was a giant "yeah, but..." Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #14

I strongly disagree with what you are heaping on her. NCIndie Dec 2023 #19

Absolutely both can be true Mossfern Dec 2023 #37

Emphatic in her condemnation? sheshe2 Dec 2023 #35

If she was so emphatic in the condemnation why all the 'confusion'..... exactly !!! nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #65

This! sheshe2 Dec 2023 #66

More mcar Dec 2023 #3

Frankly, i think both sides are so guilty in this for same and different reasons. Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #5

I don't understand what you are saying here mcar Dec 2023 #8

Where are the reports of Israeli soldiers raping and murdering Palestinian women? Sal_NV Dec 2023 #9

Here. A simple google search. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #13

A photo used by Israel as a rape victim was actually an older photo believed to be a Turkish woman womanofthehills Dec 2023 #54

Do you recall the AI photo sarisataka Dec 2023 #57

This is not fake - the links will take womanofthehills Dec 2023 #72

Rape is rape is rape JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #82

Impossible for her JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #12

Honestly, I don't get the criticism either... jmbar2 Dec 2023 #15

As post #14 says, it was a giant "yeah, but..." mcar Dec 2023 #17

But both "sides" are doing it ecstatic Dec 2023 #53

I don't have to imagine the response TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #73

Because apparently the new mantra is believe women unless they're Jewish apparently. nycbos Dec 2023 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Dec 2023 #21

She gave a good response. David__77 Dec 2023 #23

I should not have to say this in 2023 but here we are: RAPE IS RAPE. mcar Dec 2023 #26

No Jaypal did NOT. , "You don't see Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian women." Cha Dec 2023 #44

Rape and sexual violence against Israeli women calls for nothing less than unequivocal condemnation. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #61

Rec Yes, and Jaypal didn't do that. Cha Dec 2023 #63

I wonder if (or hope) someone will primary her. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #68

She sure as hell did not NoRethugFriends Dec 2023 #76

At least shes honest in not really giving a shit. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #24

LOL! And you are not being honest in that assessment of her. NCIndie Dec 2023 #28

Steve Guest: Special Advisor for Communications @ Sen Ted Cruz Rapid Response Director @ Republican National Comm. Donkees Dec 2023 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Dec 2023 #33

Repesentative Jayapal said what she said. lapucelle Dec 2023 #36

It seems hard for everyone involved to condem war crimes/crimes against humanity ... marble falls Dec 2023 #32

"Hamas rapists need to be arrested"? Who is going to arrest them? lapucelle Dec 2023 #34

No one will stop either side. This is a rinse and repeat situation. That said: rapists and murderers of children ... marble falls Dec 2023 #49

The difference is quite simple Mossfern Dec 2023 #84

So Glaringly DIFFERENT! Shocking some Don't Cha Dec 2023 #89

Mahalo, mcar!! Good to have the LIGHT SHINING on Cha Dec 2023 #38

It's not easy, Cha mcar Dec 2023 #41

I know .. too bad for anyone who Cha Dec 2023 #42

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #39

Apparently impossible sarisataka Dec 2023 #40

She's dead to me..as Kevin Oleary says Tribetime Dec 2023 #43

Show me any war in the entire history of mankind maxrandb Dec 2023 #45

I have an Idea! Why doesn't m$m Get somebody Cha Dec 2023 #46

Well Chi67 Dec 2023 #81

K&R betsuni Dec 2023 #47

"How hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women, Rep. Jayapal?" Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #48

It's really disheartening mcar Dec 2023 #52

So Jayapal is equating Palestine with HAMAS? yardwork Dec 2023 #50

Rape is a terrible crime, there is no way of legitimizing it as a weapon of war. Chainfire Dec 2023 #51

"But"....are there seriously "buts" in rape as a terror tactic? I didn't know that. Wingus Dingus Dec 2023 #55

Yup... I'm seeing FAR too many "condemnations" with a "but" at the end. Disgraceful NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #56

"Yeah, Hamas did some bad things but, LOOK OVER THERE!" mcar Dec 2023 #58

Indeed! Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #69

Honestly? Chi67 Dec 2023 #80

" In my whole life, I have never seen anything like this." EX500rider Dec 2023 #88

Why are you sharing right wing GOP crap? Why are you attacking my Representative, a Democrat? Goddessartist Dec 2023 #59

Oh please ... "attacking?" ... LOL Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #60

I'm "attacking" her by mcar Dec 2023 #62

Oh look! Goddessartist Dec 2023 #74

Jaypal's words were posted.. She didn't Cha Dec 2023 #70

I condemn it Chi67 Dec 2023 #79

The clip is Jaypal in her own words iemanja Dec 2023 #91

She didn't condemn rape on Twitter? maxsolomon Dec 2023 #67

I'm not a big fan of PayPal, but it looks like she condemned it Polybius Dec 2023 #71

Kicking Cha Dec 2023 #75

Kick for continued visibility. revmclaren Dec 2023 #77

Mahalo Rev.. Rec.. yes this Cha Dec 2023 #78

I wonder if she's even bothered to watch the videos from 10/7. n/t CincyDem Dec 2023 #83