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HopeHoops

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6. Actually, the US and Britain are responsible for that wall. We plopped down a new country...

Reply to MadHound (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:29 PM

Nov 2012

... in a region where it wasn't welcome. You had to have seen the trouble brewing, even back then. As for intervention, I don't think we can. It would just widen the conflict. Ironically, Egypt has the upper hand here in terms of brokering an end to the current affair.

And no, I don't think any of it is just on either side. It's just royally fucked up and needs to stop. That's why I said Israel wants Hamas to remain in control. They got punched in the face, but they're better than the alternatives. Everyone just needs to chill out now. Fortunately the casualties have been low, but they'll grow with time. Stop it and stop it now. Egypt has the best chance of achieving that. I hope they can.

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�We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages," [View all] MadHound Nov 2012 OP

kick n/t MadHound Nov 2012 #1

(ahem) Gaza still IS in the middle ages. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #2

Spoken like one who has never been there, MadHound Nov 2012 #3

No, I haven't been there, but they've been stuck in the middle ages and can't get out. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #4

Umm, who put up that wall? MadHound Nov 2012 #5

Actually, the US and Britain are responsible for that wall. We plopped down a new country... HopeHoops Nov 2012 #6

Frankly I think that the US is the only one who can successfully intervene, MadHound Nov 2012 #7

Egypt is the only one. If Hamas doesn't stop lobbing random missiles into Israel,... HopeHoops Nov 2012 #12

Then without us, who will rein in Israel? MadHound Nov 2012 #24

Don't get your hopes up. It was a mess waiting to happen from day one. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #28

What exactly can and should the US do? Hamas certainly has some grievances like economics, bluestate10 Nov 2012 #17

Umm, it was those economic, travel, and settlement problems MadHound Nov 2012 #25

"In fact Israel is pretty much responsible for the hell hole conditions in Gaza period." ellisonz Nov 2012 #20

What is that supposed to convince me about? MadHound Nov 2012 #26

That Hamas has zero respect for internal political opposition. ellisonz Nov 2012 #27

Actually, the Middle Ages was a time when Report1212 Nov 2012 #11

Good point, and quite true. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #13

Israel wants the Palestines to go away, Palestine wants Israel to go away Marrah_G Nov 2012 #8

The Americans tried to "blow Vietnam back to the middle ages". Didn't work out too well. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #9

Actually, Air Force General Curtis Lemay wanted to blow Vietnam "back to the coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #16

Hmm. I wouldn't think Israel would want any sort of repeat of the Middle Ages. Marr Nov 2012 #10

An election is coming up in Israel. Unfortunately, no one on the Israeli side can be viewed as weak. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #14

The Shas party are the Jewish Taliban! An extremist ultra orthodox party. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #15

Is Shas not part of the Israeli government? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #18

David "F--king Duke" Was Technically Part Of The U.S. Government, Not That Long Ago/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #19

Tea Party Rethugs are part of our government. So are LaRouchies. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #21

"not supporting Israel materially(at least not yet)" lovebird07 Nov 2012 #22

this might blow back for him, since the Middle Ages came before 1947 MisterP Nov 2012 #23

K&R. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #29