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47. So the Proud Boys calling for the elimination of LGBT isn't harassment

Wed Dec 6, 2023, 04:50 PM

Dec 2023

As long as it’s not done on an individual basis?
So when they march through a town advocating the elimination of all protected groups, even if they are only trying to remove them from their schools, or towns, that’s not harassment or bullying?
Good to know!

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"Does calling for thee genocide of Jews constitute bullying and harassment" [View all] Maraya1969 Dec 2023 OP

It should be plain old "Yes" LeftInTX Dec 2023 #1

Hate speach and calling for murder are not the same getagrip_already Dec 2023 #2

How can you call for the genocide of Jews and not be bullying or harassing them? Maraya1969 Dec 2023 #3

Exactly.... getagrip_already Dec 2023 #4

Because bullying and harassment are generally done on an individual basis. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #6

I agree with you on this. yardwork Dec 2023 #35

So when the Proud Boys rally for the removal of Hispanics from their Country forthemiddle Dec 2023 #48

for example, when it isn't actually a 'call for genocide'? Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #18

It's Interpreted As That, Sir, Because That Is The Meaning Intended By Its Coiners And Promoters The Magistrate Dec 2023 #26

So it can mean different things based on who is saying it? ExciteBike66 Dec 2023 #28

Context Is All The Magistrate Dec 2023 #29

So the Netanyahu government, which has a goal of 'from the river to the sea', is because of that slogan genocidal? Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #45

I Think The Goal Of Netanyahu And Likud Is Israeli Sovereignty From The Mediterranean To The Jordan The Magistrate Dec 2023 #46

So the Proud Boys calling for the elimination of LGBT isn't harassment forthemiddle Dec 2023 #47

Exactly correct. Not harassment or bullying. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #53

You said it doesn't always mean genocide... ExciteBike66 Dec 2023 #50

Dance All You Like, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #52

I guess we are taking right wing nut jobs Bill Ackman and Stefanik's framing. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #5

I knew at least Stefanic is a jerk but even jerks can be right occasionally Maraya1969 Dec 2023 #7

Bullying and harassment have very specific meanings. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #8

Standing outside someone's business and accusing the owners of genocide is abusive and harassing peggysue2 Dec 2023 #55

I agree singling out a business owner or a student is most likely bullying or harassment. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #57

Would there be any group sarisataka Dec 2023 #11

Bullying and harassment have specific meanings. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #17

We had Brother Jed and his band sarisataka Dec 2023 #20

I don't disagree with your last paragraph. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #23

I took the question as applying to students and staff sarisataka Dec 2023 #25

Even if they are going by strict definitions ecstatic Dec 2023 #13

They said several time "when it turns into conduct" Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #16

Yeah, I gotta say I'm with you on this one Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #30

they should have answered like you did! I'll admit I didn't see the entire exchange ecstatic Dec 2023 #34

They did say that and they're being criticized for it. yardwork Dec 2023 #37

The sound bite that's making the rounds on Morning Joe and other networks ecstatic Dec 2023 #39

Well, there's a.reason for that. Republican Joe Scarborough scores a point against higher ed. yardwork Dec 2023 #41

I heard Dr. Gay of Harvard make the clear "conduct" remark in a recording from spooky3 Dec 2023 #54

Yardwork SYGDeb Dec 2023 #42

Agreed. yardwork Dec 2023 #36

JFC is right. redqueen Dec 2023 #51

I suppose we should be thankful sarisataka Dec 2023 #9

Yes SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #10

That was insane! ecstatic Dec 2023 #12

I had exactly the opposite reaction. yardwork Dec 2023 #38

Yardwork SYGDeb Dec 2023 #43

Forgive me if this is a dumb question - WHO is calling for the genocide of jews? walkingman Dec 2023 #14

Walkingman SYGDeb Dec 2023 #44

i totally agree. walkingman Dec 2023 #49

I will have to watch the clip later, really curious what exactly was said. redqueen Dec 2023 #15

Hamas or a similar group say that it means seizing Israel LeftInTX Dec 2023 #33

If we insist on putting this in context . . . peggysue2 Dec 2023 #19

Rec Yes.. Mahalo Peffysue! Cha Dec 2023 #31

That happens every day on college campuses. yardwork Dec 2023 #40

In Today's Blame Game Society RobinA Dec 2023 #21

I used to work in the Personnel/Human Resources/AA area at the County & at a public University Hekate Dec 2023 #22

The far left and far right bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #24

As 10% of the student body at these universities are Jewish, you'd think they'd be defended. elias7 Dec 2023 #27

Rec TY elias. Cha Dec 2023 #32

Trump's scummy republicans encouraging the killing of more Jews. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #56

These people have lost their frigging minds. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2023 #58