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Ms. Toad

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48. Have you seen the Code of Conduct, and the specific rules prohibiting bullying and harassment?

Wed Dec 6, 2023, 11:03 PM

Dec 2023

As an attorney, my answer would be that I can't tell you whether it violates those provisions without looking at the provisions. Any violation of a code of conduct - like any violation of the law - requires matching the conduct (even if only verbal) to each element of the rule.

If you ask me my opinion about the conduct (is it wrong, is it hateful, etc.?) I would have no problem giving a yes/no answer. But if you ask me if it violates a specific provision of the Code of Conduct - I can't do that without first the code, and second the details of the conduct.

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I hate it when I agree with Elise Stefanik. [View all] madaboutharry Dec 2023 OP

It was a disgrace, and presidents of these prestigious universities failed miserably. JohnSJ Dec 2023 #1

I had the exact same reaction. CincyDem Dec 2023 #2

Do you attach any significance to her interrupting? rzemanfl Dec 2023 #3

No I don't. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #5

Thank you for responding. rzemanfl Dec 2023 #10

agree claudette Dec 2023 #12

That's true.....or claudette Dec 2023 #6

Your first question was about context. The witness was not allowed to discuss it. rzemanfl Dec 2023 #16

You're claudette Dec 2023 #17

They should be deeply ashamed. lapucelle Dec 2023 #4

she should be fired. immediately moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #7

Elise is a hypocrite mgardener Dec 2023 #8

That's not a surprise. She routinely votes against legislation that can help the people Rhiannon12866 Dec 2023 #53

it looks like all 3 presidents had trouble calling out anti semitism moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #9

How can the claudette Dec 2023 #11

The university can and should moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #14

Yes, of course but claudette Dec 2023 #15

That doesn't matter moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #19

Wow claudette Dec 2023 #20

when it comes to anti semitism i have zero tolerance moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #23

Sorry you had claudette Dec 2023 #25

It is way past mean. This garbage spreads like wildfire TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #67

I saw the film clip on MSNBC. You can avail yourself of it as well. The Board of Regents... Hekate Dec 2023 #32

The specific question was on supporting genocide Kennah Dec 2023 #49

The question wasn't "is antisemitism wrong." It is. Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #47

This is reminiscent of red scare tactics. redqueen Dec 2023 #13

"From the river to the sea" has a clearly defined meaning & Hamas has made it clear that their goal... Hekate Dec 2023 #33

Neither I, nor anyone else pushing back against this WITH US OR AGAINST US bullshit is ignorant about the phrase. redqueen Dec 2023 #34

"If the KKK showed up on campus and advocated the slaughter of non-whites . . ." Sympthsical Dec 2023 #18

Jews don't count, a message made very clear by these "leaders" tritsofme Dec 2023 #24

Who is advocating the slaughter of whom on these campuses? nt redqueen Dec 2023 #35

From the River to the Sea and calling for an Intifada are very antisemitic Sympthsical Dec 2023 #37

Huge effort to demonize those words and all who utter them. redqueen Dec 2023 #38

How do you feel about people who say the Confederate Flag is "Just about heritage!" Sympthsical Dec 2023 #39

The Confederate flag is a battle flag clown against the US in a bloody civil war redqueen Dec 2023 #40

"From the River to the Sea" has long been a call to destroy Israel Sympthsical Dec 2023 #41

It is not analogous to the Confederate flag. redqueen Dec 2023 #42

So I have a question for you Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #73

Congressional hearings are not held about confederate flags on campuses LeftInTX Dec 2023 #58

Have you seen the Code of Conduct, and the specific rules prohibiting bullying and harassment? Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #48

They are university presidents - not summer interns Sympthsical Dec 2023 #62

Where were the GOP hearings after Charlottesville? Crickets...They held the House then. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #66

Whataboutism minimizes just how bad what these university presidents said was Sympthsical Dec 2023 #69

The University of Pennsylvania contacted the FBI. Magill (who was grilled yesterday) herself signed the letter on Nov 6 LeftInTX Dec 2023 #70

And she still said what she said Sympthsical Dec 2023 #71

Then don't . Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #21

I most certainly will agree with her. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #22

The Biden White House strongly condemned what happened at the hearing as well tritsofme Dec 2023 #26

Ugh. Me too. Jilly_in_VA Dec 2023 #27

In what context Mz Pip Dec 2023 #28

Think Of It As The Wretch Agreeing With You, Sir... The Magistrate Dec 2023 #29

Is anyone literally calling for genocide of Jews? harumph Dec 2023 #30

You've hit the crux of the issue. Certain parties want to define that phrase, which predates hamas redqueen Dec 2023 #36

Shades of grey Redleg Dec 2023 #61

Good God. People at DU are deeply, deeply confused about hate speech. Some people anyway. Hekate Dec 2023 #31

The person that's endorsing the guy who had dinner with Nick Fuentes? tenderfoot Dec 2023 #43

I think it's fair to say we all agree Stefanik is a terrible person. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #44

I'm sure she's totally sincere... tenderfoot Dec 2023 #45

Stefanik is awful Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #74

".. depends on the Context".. WTF. Cha Dec 2023 #46

How about this for a lame walk back from Liz Magill... madaboutharry Dec 2023 #50

It's a hard lesson to learn to Always Cha Dec 2023 #54

At least she made an attempt to clarify her remarks Redleg Dec 2023 #63

Stefanik is a product of those schools. She is a hater. pwb Dec 2023 #51

Al Franken also went to Harvard. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #52

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I'm going to offer you some advice. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #60

Contex is in the mind of the beholder. czarjak Dec 2023 #55

Amazing at some in this thread twisting themselves to defend these presidents at JohnSJ Dec 2023 #56

It makes me think that some may have said these things themselves madaboutharry Dec 2023 #57

I think Stefanik's agenda is anti-higher education. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #68

I can agree the House bill was unnecessary and exploitative of Jewish pain. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #72

The way these college presidents answered reminded me of Trump's Charlotesville answer Ohioboy Dec 2023 #64

Why doesn't she grill the Texas Republican Party? LeftInTX Dec 2023 #65