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calimary

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36. WOW!

Sun Dec 10, 2023, 02:55 PM

Dec 2023

“As I see it, man is a product of his conditioning, and the social forces which mold his morality and conduct— including racial prejudice—are influenced more by material things like food and economic necessities than by the fear and awe and bigotry generated by the high priests of commercialized superstition.”

Just WOW!

And “I can’t help wondering how many public figures make avowals of religious faith to maintain an aura of respectability.”

Just WOW AGAIN!

His vocabulary is as powerful as are his vocals (“avowals” and “opprobrium” and “obeisance“, for example).

TRIPLE WOW!

And this one: “How can a free people make decisions without facts? If the press reports world news as they report about me, we’re in trouble.”

Holy Cow!!!

And on top of this well-reasoned and deeply thoughtful perspective, his grammar is Catholic-school-nun perfect. Including the usage of the word/object “whom”. I’m nitpicking here, and I know he was no saint. But still…

Mongo impressed! PROFOUNDLY impressed.

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Frank Sinatra's views on organized religion - 1963 Playboy Interview [View all] sarchasm Dec 2023 OP

I had no idea Sinatra was that smart Orangepeel Dec 2023 #1

That was my reaction as well Nittersing Dec 2023 #4

I had to look up that one too Walleye Dec 2023 #5

And me 'concomitant' onetexan Dec 2023 #27

Oh, I knew he was intelligent, but I never realized how articulate he was at expressing his worldview and his considered Texin Dec 2023 #26

Agree, but it makes sense, given that Mia Farrow is also spooky3 Dec 2023 #29

Smart and very enlightened. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #51

Did you know he was a Doctor of Engineering from the Abolishinist Dec 2023 #59

I'm not surprised that he was awarded an honorary degree Orangepeel Dec 2023 #61

His great music covered, to a certain extent, Sinatra's compassion for people. ificandream Dec 2023 #2

+1 peppertree Dec 2023 #21

Who knew the articles and interviews were worth reading? Silent Type Dec 2023 #3

Many famous authors were published in (and debuted pieces in) Playboy. Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #17

lol chowder66 Dec 2023 #33

Well, Playboy did publish some very intelligent articles, but let us not forget these came to us in the PatrickforB Dec 2023 #44

Good advice, if you can't believe the reporting on him what can you believe Walleye Dec 2023 #6

"The greatest tragedy in human history.... lastlib Dec 2023 #7

For hundreds of thousands of years, social primates such as humans Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #28

Thanks for posting. Well said Frank. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #8

Wow, gives me a whole new appreciation of Frank Sinatra. Fla Dem Dec 2023 #9

I was into different music and so didn't pay much attention to him. pandr32 Dec 2023 #14

great interview... loved the man! mountain grammy Dec 2023 #10

The Rep agenda was not the same then as it is now. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #54

He supported Reagan mountain grammy Dec 2023 #58

Hollywood twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #63

Mr. Sinatra jumped up several steps in my opinion after reading that. patphil Dec 2023 #11

spiritual is a nonsense word; use words for the actual emotions kiri Dec 2023 #22

I agree. I don't like that word. Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #60

I agree, for you spirituality is a nonsense word. patphil Dec 2023 #52

Amazing side of Frank I never knew SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #12

The entire interview is worth reading Blaukraut Dec 2023 #13

Thanks for posting Mysterian Dec 2023 #15

Never knew Old Blue Eyes was so informed and articulate. Thanks for posting. Demnation Dec 2023 #16

Right on Mr. Sinatra. StarryNite Dec 2023 #18

A couple of observations - I'm just spitballin' here ... FakeNoose Dec 2023 #19

... or perhaps even had the questions (and the answers) advanced through his PR people. sarchasm Dec 2023 #48

OMG. Who knew Frank Sinatra was that intelligent? Goodheart Dec 2023 #20

Thanks for posting. What a thoughtful man Raven123 Dec 2023 #23

A wise man this Frank... bahboo Dec 2023 #24

One of my favorite Frank Sinatra references came a few years ago. Norbert Dec 2023 #25

Frank Sinatra hated Donald Trump Niagara Dec 2023 #65

How refreshing to read such clear articulation. It's a dying art and I had no idea Sinatra was so gifted chia Dec 2023 #31

I share Ol' Blue Eyes' views on organized religions. sop Dec 2023 #32

Very sharp reply interspersed with classic Sinatrisms. Kablooie Dec 2023 #34

I just gained a helluva lotta respect for Frank Sinatra Martin Eden Dec 2023 #35

WOW! calimary Dec 2023 #36

Sinatra was intelligent, but not a role model. John1956PA Dec 2023 #37

He nailed it. Where the heck did he get his education? Swede Dec 2023 #38

47 days of high school before being kicked out for rowdiness, never to return. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #53

Listen to "The House I Live In" montanacowboy Dec 2023 #39

Wow Wild blueberry Dec 2023 #40

Funny that John Lennon faced a lynching for his comments TxGuitar Dec 2023 #41

Morality and decency are not the sole property of organized religion. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #42

Sinatra did have one major failing, he liked hanging out with Mob fellows. Archae Dec 2023 #43

You know, when something sounds too good to be true, Abolishinist Dec 2023 #45

Of course. The interview transcript was tweaked and polished before publication. John1956PA Dec 2023 #50

Ahh, the truth being somewhere in between... sarchasm Dec 2023 #66

After reading the Playboy article it just didn't add up. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #68

Sounds like a Matthew-style Christian. Baitball Blogger Dec 2023 #46

Excellent!! Owl Dec 2023 #47

That whole 1963 interview with Sinatra was very eye-opening erronis Dec 2023 #49

About Sammy Davis, Jr. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #55

Commercialized Superstition. That nails MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #56

As a kid I loved his voice.... spanone Dec 2023 #57

Frank Sinatra was a big JFK supporter. roamer65 Dec 2023 #62

I know a deeply pious fan who needs to read this. JohnnyRingo Dec 2023 #64

I'm never surprised by my Idol sky_masterson Dec 2023 #67