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Tomconroy

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13. The way I've seen it explained is that manufacturers

Reply to lapfog_1 (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 15, 2023, 02:38 PM

Dec 2023

Won't ramp up capacity unless they have some guarantees for a long term commitment (years and years) to buy the shells.
But I'm not really an expert on this issue. All I know is Ukraine is not getting what it needs to win.
There does seem to be good news re the drone air war. The drones seem to have prevented any Russian mechanical advances in the east and apparently are allowing a few hundred Ukrainians to hold off maybe 15000 Russian troops on the left bank of the Dnipro near Kherson.

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Putin admits to 350000 war casualties in Ukraine. [View all] Tomconroy Dec 2023 OP

What a waste of human life! demosincebirth Dec 2023 #1

the media and the US population lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #2

The basic problem (or a major problem at least) Tomconroy Dec 2023 #3

yeah, which is why we must give them existing stockpiles lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #4

They are getting the trade ins! Mopar151 Dec 2023 #5

F16s are supposed to be coming soon, mostly Tomconroy Dec 2023 #6

so even if we approve the aid, they can't get the 155mm shells? lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #10

I don't know what to say. Tomconroy Dec 2023 #11

could these arms suppliers be influenced by MAGA traitors ? lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #12

The way I've seen it explained is that manufacturers Tomconroy Dec 2023 #13

Current news shows Russians with huge advantage in drones. WarGamer Dec 2023 #16

Russia has a serious problem with coordination Kaleva Dec 2023 #18

drones are the technology of future warfare lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #17

I doubt it, they are in the business of making money but building new production facilities takes time EX500rider Dec 2023 #14

Yeah, massive land conquest duckworth969 Dec 2023 #7

Russia has lost a lot of what it occupied in March Tomconroy Dec 2023 #8

A profoundly insightful thought here... 2naSalit Dec 2023 #9

The same US Intel source estimates AFU losses (casualties) at 220k+ WarGamer Dec 2023 #15