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Voltaire2

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2. There is a well known solution practiced by almost every other developed country

Sun Dec 17, 2023, 12:57 PM

Dec 2023

It is some form of universal public health insurance. It makes healthcare available to everyone, affordable, both to users and to the system that funds it, and delivers results that are measurably superior in both health metrics and cost to our idiotic privatized mess.

But apparently that would be communism or something, so we can't do that.

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On being self insured: My health insurance does nothing to insure my health. [View all] MontanaMama Dec 2023 OP

Is this what is available even with Obamacare? MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #1

Insurance through the marketplace costs more MontanaMama Dec 2023 #6

Correct me if I'm mistaken, please misanthrope Dec 2023 #12

No they can't. Demsrule86 Dec 2023 #25

It is my understanding that under the ACA MontanaMama Dec 2023 #28

They do it by charging by age IbogaProject Dec 2023 #35

Yeah, you hit that age and insurance companies raise your premiums out the wazoo because they... LudwigPastorius Dec 2023 #13

Ten years ago DENVERPOPS Dec 2023 #20

And, if your income is above a modest amount (which doesn't cover much in high cost cities) spooky3 Dec 2023 #26

This is exactly what's going on. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #21

There is a well known solution practiced by almost every other developed country Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #2

Indeed. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #7

The GOP and it's members will fight it IbogaProject Dec 2023 #36

Maybe DENVERPOPS Dec 2023 #42

Hey it's only 1T a year. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #43

And for Decades DENVERPOPS Dec 2023 #47

For years, we lived in diverse neighborhoods...that's why my last POC neighbor was a Backseat Driver Dec 2023 #55

I feel for you! Diamond_Dog Dec 2023 #3

Yes. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #8

I think the part about that... 2naSalit Dec 2023 #10

Amen sister. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #30

TY for providing benefits XanaDUer2 Dec 2023 #4

I don't want to wish time away... MontanaMama Dec 2023 #9

I lined up a bunch of tests XanaDUer2 Dec 2023 #11

The insurance companies pay dearly for all their lobbyists, I assume Deuxcents Dec 2023 #5

Do you have a local Chamber of Commerce? Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #14

SMH. How terrible and how can Americans afford these kinds of rates for medical insurance? SWBTATTReg Dec 2023 #15

Usually plans will not cross state boundaries. erronis Dec 2023 #19

I would be very interested to know what you find out from your sister. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #31

As soon as my sister gets back to me on, w/ regards to her husband (a self-employed concrete contractor), and his SWBTATTReg Dec 2023 #41

Can you lower your income to qualify for the subsidy? Auggie Dec 2023 #16

Healthcare.gov offeres tax subsidies to reduce premiums based on income dlk Dec 2023 #22

My friend paid $2 a month Auggie Dec 2023 #23

Depending on the income, the tax credits can save a significant amount on the monthly premium dlk Dec 2023 #24

Great question! MontanaMama Dec 2023 #32

What types of plans do you provide your employees? MichMan Dec 2023 #51

If health insurance is something MontanaMama Dec 2023 #60

Do Blue States Beachnutt Dec 2023 #17

I don't know. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #33

Pre-65 health insurance premiums are very pricy dlk Dec 2023 #18

When self insured earlier this year JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #27

why do people tolerate this? mike_c Dec 2023 #34

Why do I tolerate this? MontanaMama Dec 2023 #38

We provide it for Medicare recipients because they pre paid into the system for 40 years MichMan Dec 2023 #52

We desperatly need universal healthcare. area51 Dec 2023 #37

THIS. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #39

Our U.S. House members and Senate Members DENVERPOPS Dec 2023 #45

These high deductible plans are making people sicker Tree Lady Dec 2023 #40

They are making people sicker. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #44

Ugh!!! Tree Lady Dec 2023 #46

This is hideous, MM, and makes me so angry cilla4progress Dec 2023 #48

The only answer is National Healthcare like Emile Dec 2023 #49

Most of them fund it with VAT taxes of 10-20 % MichMan Dec 2023 #53

Well, we will have to fund it by taxing the wealthy. Emile Dec 2023 #56

Kick dalton99a Dec 2023 #50

I never made much money and had to buy insurance through the ACA for two years before Medicare kicked in brewens Dec 2023 #54

Thinking outside the box here. Desert grandma Dec 2023 #57

i hear ya.......... Takket Dec 2023 #58

This wont help with lowering your insurance xmas74 Dec 2023 #59