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In reply to the discussion: Anonymous did not stop Rove from stealing the election. [View all]I don't see why so many feel they have to try and discredit Anonymous in order to give credit to Obama for the win. I think both that Obama and his campaign along with the people all around that worked on it deserve huge credit for the win. I also would like to think that if Anonymous stopped Rove in Ohio, they deserve a lot of credit for stopping this machine that has stolen elections in the past, and even perhaps might have with a few more tweaks have stolen this one too.
Once Ohio was no longer part of the mix if Anonymous did in fact stop them, perhaps the Rove machine would have turned off the gears that might have flipped Florida and one or two other key states. Anonymous mentions three states being wired in to their servers, which likely was Florida and perhaps another key state. If they had all been flipped, it might have been a different story. Probably the Rove machine knew that once the Ohio effort was stopped, the effort in Florida to overturn it's count was doomed, and the only outcome besides extra electoral votes from it would have been an increasing likelihood that they'd get caught, so once Ohio was stopped, they probably stopped the whole machine from further action, knowing they'd been beaten. And perhaps even if they'd flipped all of the states they'd planned to flip, it still might not have been enough to win, which the Obama campaign deserves huge credit for.
This election does really show that if we vote enough, that even if there's an attempt to steal the election, we can overcome those efforts.
If Anonymous did stop this effort, it hopefully will put a crimp on what those behind Rove might try in the future, though it will possibly also make them more stealthy about trying to figure out what Anonymous did in every corner to find a way to keep them from doing it in the future, if the Rove machine is allowed to continue to operate in subsequent elections without any kind of efforts to investigate and prosecute them. I'm glad that the radar has been turned on Rove and company, and hopefully the Justice department actually goes through and tries to investigate what might have happened. Until they do, and until they stop doing what they are doing to the likes of Bradley Manning, Julian Assange, and other whistle blowers, I can't blame Anonymous for not coming forward and laying out details of what they found, as it might also expose how they did what they did to keep it off the table, in case our justice department doesn't do something about prosecuting those involved, or in case we don't finally see the stupidity of having our elections depend on a privatized and private set of electronic voting machine apparatus with no accountability that allows for this kind of manipulation to occur.