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Earth-shine

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64. This situation did not begin with the Oct 7 attack.

Sat Dec 23, 2023, 01:47 PM

Dec 2023

You imply that the protesters knew about plans for the attack beforehand. I think not. For example, in the Arab world, similar protests were made against the US the day after 9-11.

There was plenty of anti-Israel sentiment in Palestine before Oct 7, which is why this attack could take place. There was enough support for it.

Nothing justifies the savagery of Hamas on Oct 7, but there are reasons why it happened. Many considered Gaza an open-air prison. Doesn't matter whether you agree.

1200 Israeli killed. 20,000 Gazans killed. This is done. What matters now is what happens next.

More war will create more anti-Israel sentiment now, and more Hamas fighters in the future generations.

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Column: Progressive Activism Against Israel Is Helping to Fuel Antisemitism Among Young People [View all] RandySF Dec 2023 OP

"The idea is to appeal to people who know nothing." Sympthsical Dec 2023 #1

I would disagree with the first sentence. Eko Dec 2023 #2

I agree with everything you wrote. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #4

Thanks, and sorry for having people be shitty and anti-Semitic to you. Eko Dec 2023 #7

Absolutely not. No American troops to Israel. Bad idea that would... brush Dec 2023 #31

eh, Eko Dec 2023 #33

At the same time, before bombardment even started in Gaza, Igel Dec 2023 #45

There were already pro Palestinian/ anti"Zionist" marches before Israel retaliated much later. Mossfern Dec 2023 #55

This situation did not begin with the Oct 7 attack. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #64

And this justifies Mossfern Dec 2023 #73

I previously said nothing justifies the brutality of Oct 7. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #80

You don't address antisemitism in the US Mossfern Dec 2023 #84

I most certainly did address it. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #89

This is the crux of the issue ... Mossfern Dec 2023 #90

Yes. Antisemitism is a thing. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #91

Amazing.... Mossfern Dec 2023 #92

You are well past the point of making a point. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #94

I admit that some refuse to get an obvious point no matter how Mossfern Dec 2023 #95

"blame the was [sic] between Hamas and Israel on all Jewish people" Earth-shine Dec 2023 #96

The problem with that is the Pro-Pal / Anti-Israel protests started before the Israeli bodies were cold. Ace Rothstein Dec 2023 #9

Huh. They did? Eko Dec 2023 #12

Yes, they absolutely did. Ace Rothstein Dec 2023 #13

Delete. Just not a discussion I want to have. Eko Dec 2023 #14

That's kind of a lame response, frankly. yardwork Dec 2023 #23

If you say so. Eko Dec 2023 #25

The article is dated October 9 and discusses protests that had been happening "for days." yardwork Dec 2023 #26

The protest in the article was on the 8th. Eko Dec 2023 #27

Wow. edisdead Dec 2023 #46

Post 86 Eko Dec 2023 #87

October 8 was the day after HAMAS attacked Israel. yardwork Dec 2023 #47

Here, what day and time is it in Israel? Eko Dec 2023 #86

It is absolutely 100% true Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #41

Accusations of 'anti-semitism' against those people who were attacking Israelis and Jews DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #24

Thanks. You took the words right out of my mouth.... DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #20

The antisemitic attacks began on October 8, long before the Israelis retaliated. yardwork Dec 2023 #21

Yes they did.. and I Cha Dec 2023 #28

You are an OG. Eko Dec 2023 #32

Hey Eko... I'm not going Cha Dec 2023 #34

Not trying to change your mind either. Eko Dec 2023 #88

So that was the majority of it? Eko Dec 2023 #30

If the sticking point is the word "majority" Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #42

Not true. The antisemitic attacks began on Oct 8, long before Israel retaliated. yardwork Dec 2023 #22

You are mistaken. Before Israel started retaliating, many justified the massacre question everything Dec 2023 #29

What disproves this Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #40

Exactly. Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #61

Thought the same thing. Grins Dec 2023 #76

The far left and right bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #3

The progressive Nazis LeftInTX Dec 2023 #5

Yes so "progressive " Cha Dec 2023 #10

I can't imagine why.. fucking tik Tok Cha Dec 2023 #6

Or anti- Apartheid n/t malaise Dec 2023 #39

They might hide behind that label, but we all know they are anti-Semites. tritsofme Dec 2023 #82

My friends and I could quote Anne Frank malaise Dec 2023 #83

How right you are, Cha! Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #72

A ole pilikia, BtA 🕊️🕯️🇮🇱💙Rec Cha Dec 2023 #78

If you would go on Tic Toc you might see womanofthehills Dec 2023 #79

There is a difference among showing death, propaganda, and anti-Semitic content. Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #85

Solidarity with people in Gaza, who are facing a war of annihilation, is urgently needed. David__77 Dec 2023 #8

People should try building that then Sympthsical Dec 2023 #11

So this student group goes around tearing down posters of hostages...real classy... LeftInTX Dec 2023 #15

Yeah if classy Cha Dec 2023 #17

And what do you have to say Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #19

Is harassing and threatening sarisataka Dec 2023 #66

"War of annihilation" Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #97

American Jews being Violently Cha Dec 2023 #16

The far left and far right bend toward each other Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #18

I have mistakenly called it a "toe bar". Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #35

This is disturbing. I don't believe this young lady is involved with any Palestinian group. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #36

It's extremely disturbing. yardwork Dec 2023 #48

I googled this and learned it was recorded in early November. yardwork Dec 2023 #49

Yes. Someone influenced her. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #56

We watched this anti-Israeli propaganda go out the day after HAMAS attacked. yardwork Dec 2023 #58

K&R betsuni Dec 2023 #37

Or paying attention malaise Dec 2023 #38

So you think antisemitism is fine? yardwork Dec 2023 #50

Not everything is anti-semitism malaise Dec 2023 #52

Your post is garbled, so I don't understand. yardwork Dec 2023 #53

Corrected malaise Dec 2023 #57

Sure, but we're talking about antisemitism in this thread. yardwork Dec 2023 #59

One of the problems in Israel is that 60 percent of the country are Jews expelled from Arab or Muslim countries. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #74

It is fine to be antiapartheid sarisataka Dec 2023 #65

You're at least admitting Zeitghost Dec 2023 #67

Thought the same thing with the "are also" BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #69

Fascinated with the use of "are also" in the response. BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #68

As usual you miss the point malaise Dec 2023 #70

On the contrary. The point is pellucidly clear. BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #71

well nutty yahoo the war criminal makes that rather easy dembotoz Dec 2023 #43

The behavior of one person justifies antisemitism? yardwork Dec 2023 #51

perhaps it does to many...it sure as hell makes it easy dembotoz Dec 2023 #98

Antisemitism has been around for decades before Israel's response to Oct 7. Patton French Dec 2023 #44

Some of the anti-war stuff is causing a rise in anti-semitism in young adults. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #63

There has always been a "Jewish" problem with the far left and far right. It is just that the antisemitism from the JohnSJ Dec 2023 #54

I'm talking about it now and I'm not going to shut up. yardwork Dec 2023 #60

It should be. JohnSJ Dec 2023 #62

Thank you. betsuni Dec 2023 #75

Jewish friend of mine said he encountered more antisemitism.... AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #77

they should've known that this was gonna happen reymega life Dec 2023 #81

Who is 'they?' Mossfern Dec 2023 #93