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Javaman

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151. After reading all the various responses in this thread...

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:45 AM

Nov 2012

I have come to the conclusion that whether not someone walks around in the castro district nude isn't the issue. Since, apparently, they have been doing this for a very long time and contrary to some who have commented in this thread, there hasn't been a massive outbreak of fecal matter in food or anything of the like otherwise it would have been all over fox news as a banner headline for years.

No, the issue is peoples personal beliefs and concepts as to how other people should live.

It's amusing really, considering how often we complain about how the republicans wish to limit our personal freedoms. Now, here in our very midst, many posters are doing just that same thing. Until this item was in the headlines, honestly, how many of you actually gave a rats ass about this issue? I would bet none. Zero. Nada. Zip and Zilch.

But since it's the new "outrage du jour" the moral contempt writ large on some DU'ers sleeves comes out in a fury of indignation.

You crack me up. LOL

Get over yourselves and have a good laugh at your knee jerk need to comment on something that didn't matter to you a week ago.

So amusing.

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Public nudity ban eyed in fed-up San Francisco [View all] Drale Nov 2012 OP

public nudity gets old really fast dlwickham Nov 2012 #1

I'm not a Puritan, but this whole dustup is over the same 10 or so guys that are as annoying as hell CreekDog Nov 2012 #75

I used to live and work in SF dlwickham Nov 2012 #100

"these people are a nuisance"? PavePusher Nov 2012 #165

A guy named Weiner................... johnq45 Nov 2012 #2

My first thought as well! OrwellwasRight Nov 2012 #6

Just as long as mindwalker_i Nov 2012 #126

Weiner says: "NO Weiners!" trof Nov 2012 #80

HEH! He makes the Wiener jokes! n/t Kennah Nov 2012 #95

Does This Mean That He Has To Wear A Burka in Public? Yavin4 Nov 2012 #164

I guess I just don't see the big deal, but then again, I don't have kids. marmar Nov 2012 #3

Reproduction has nothing to do with somebody's hairy asshole ruining a perfectly Care Acutely Nov 2012 #25

thanks for the visual there.....nt CAG Nov 2012 #40

*tips cap* Care Acutely Nov 2012 #52

If people can't handle it being typed, it's not cool to have it in the flesh Bucky Nov 2012 #194

So, you never look at dogs, I presume..... n/t PavePusher Nov 2012 #166

I don't have kids either, but how would you feel if while eating your lunch outdoors, at a table, demosincebirth Nov 2012 #82

Honestly, I wouldn't care. Doesn't bother me. marmar Nov 2012 #86

Good for you nt demosincebirth Nov 2012 #142

Actually it is a serious health hazard. A naked butt on chairs and benches can desposit snagglepuss Nov 2012 #152

So can birds and squirrels. marmar Nov 2012 #154

As has been stated several times, towels are required when sitting down. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #156

I have kids and public nudity doesn't concern me at all. ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #92

ROFL....Ain't that the truth? marmar Nov 2012 #94

So fecal matter shed on a bench that your kids use doesn't concern you? snagglepuss Nov 2012 #153

Towels are required. By the way, there is fecal bacteria everywhere... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #157

Sure, but my kids go to school, and how well do you think the kids at school ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #158

HA! Most Ohio restaurants wouldn't know what to do!! HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #168

Was this meant to be a reply to my post? ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #175

Your call for banning public country music? HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #179

Oh crap, I forgot that I wrote that bit. I guess I should have gone back and read what ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #181

I'll sign that petition! But only if real, old country music is excluded. Nothing wrong with Woody Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #205

Ironic that the guy's last name is Wiener. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #4

Yeah. Exactly. Why don't smoking hot people walk around nude in public? nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #18

Which Is It? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #20

18 agrees they should ban public nudity. So does 16. What is your point? uppityperson Nov 2012 #21

Right fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #24

No me. Keep up. Seems an odd point to pick on. "i agree" "i agree". hmmm. uppityperson Nov 2012 #27

Ok. fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #36

"we all have bodies and meh" Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #50

Good. Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #5

Agree. OrwellwasRight Nov 2012 #7

There's a plan ToxMarz Nov 2012 #55

I Can Beat That fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #8

+1 Deep13 Nov 2012 #11

Good point. I think both should be allowed. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #93

The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #9

perineum? Deep13 Nov 2012 #10

It shouldn't be a crime but Drale Nov 2012 #13

Well, a ticketable offense is a low-grade crime. nt Deep13 Nov 2012 #23

That perineum-- word ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #17

I looked it up. Deep13 Nov 2012 #26

Heh ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #44

What you see in the Castro is precisely people making that effort alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #46

Oh, the puns in this topic ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #51

I demand the right to expose my perineum! anarch Nov 2012 #38

I had to wikipedia it. ellisonz Nov 2012 #57

Generally, In nurse speak ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #67

That's not a very good place for delicate, easily irritated tissue. Deep13 Nov 2012 #112

Why underwear is a GOOD invention ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #120

That drawing made me change my mind... Deep13 Nov 2012 #85

Taint nothing to worry about, friend. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #118

This is what happens when they cut funding for sex education. ellisonz Nov 2012 #119

The taint, or grundle (nt) Recursion Nov 2012 #182

It's a tickleable offense! pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #139

We're talking about the Castro here... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #12

I drove through there during a visit to SF last year Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #39

Then go a different way next time. tabasco Nov 2012 #42

I raised a kid in the Castro... my neighbors have two little ones... We go out family night dining Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #59

Men can't beat wiener on the streets... dem4ward Nov 2012 #14

Keep that wiener covered in a bun - new law! RKP5637 Nov 2012 #102

City ordinance rule 42b-w "All wieners must be leashed when walked in public." dem4ward Nov 2012 #143

And licensed + a rabies shot - that oughta keep those wieners tucked in and hidden! LOL n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #149

there are practical reasons why we wear clothing...and then they become culturally ingrained. ibegurpard Nov 2012 #15

You got halfway there, then stopped quakerboy Nov 2012 #35

No problem sitting on a bus seat vacated by an exposed anus / genitals? DirkGently Nov 2012 #61

There is fecal bacteria all over your grocery cart handles. It is ubiquitous. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #64

Not the same as bodily fluids, fecal matter, hpv lesions. DirkGently Nov 2012 #77

DING DING DING. We have a winner. given the serious helath hazard, I am stunned snagglepuss Nov 2012 #155

Not once has this issue been addressed as a health hazard... because it isn't. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #159

But where would they find more fecal bacteria, on a grocery cart handle, or an ass hole? hughee99 Nov 2012 #79

Are you planning on probing a nudist's asshole? Fecal matter is already in your own backyard.. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #81

It's not quite the same when they give an old person their seat on the bus on a hot day. n/t hughee99 Nov 2012 #111

That does not mean that they can't be transfered from a bare rear end CaliforniaHiker Nov 2012 #114

Fecal bacteria is everywhere. And two dozen naked guys walking around a Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #127

Hey now, don't bring that real science stuff around here..... PavePusher Nov 2012 #167

Not overly. quakerboy Nov 2012 #89

In some states (and probably in all, but I can't say that for sure) Mariana Nov 2012 #117

The law presently states... Science Geek Nov 2012 #144

I think most of those germs grow in warm, dark, damp, enclosed places. Deep13 Nov 2012 #203

uhh, are the nudists in San Francisco Iggy Nov 2012 #96

I don't think so but sometimes things do leak snooper2 Nov 2012 #110

As I thought... Iggy Nov 2012 #191

When they don't wipe their asses properly, Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #147

One-word solution: PavePusher Nov 2012 #171

Amen. nt kstewart33 Nov 2012 #106

I agree. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #16

Much ado about nothing. sellitman Nov 2012 #19

Yeah, nudity in public is a bit much other than at the beach or at a pool. Cleita Nov 2012 #22

Who has the time and money to be able to stroll around in the nude? hedgehog Nov 2012 #28

I've been to a nude beach once Drale Nov 2012 #31

I went to a nude beach near Cannes once Nevernose Nov 2012 #47

because when you're an even remotely good looking female, the camera phones get whipped out.... bettyellen Nov 2012 #70

Letters to Penthouse Forum lied to me about a LOT of things... Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #183

I never would have believed this could happen to me. kwassa Nov 2012 #198

Ewww..I wouldn't shop... one_voice Nov 2012 #32

A bunch of out-of-shape middle-aged guys, that's who. DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #34

Tourist Who Go There fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #48

Foul the City's brand! Hahahaha! That's what we should do. Run the city Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #62

+1. I guess castro is a pretty toney address these days. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #45

Once a year Seattle has a parade that includes naked bicyclists Matariki Nov 2012 #29

We have that here in Philly GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #41

afterwards- do they sell the seats for charity? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #65

Oh ha! Matariki Nov 2012 #99

They should make an exception for circumcised males at Olive Garden grantcart Nov 2012 #30

Thank You for Making Me Laugh! fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #37

Don't they have some kind of EYESORE ordinance?? MADem Nov 2012 #33

I totally agree with you. nt Raine Nov 2012 #43

I think public nudity among women should be legal and possibly publicly subsidized banned from Kos Nov 2012 #49

Would damn sure cut down on the birth rate.. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #91

!! NMDemDist2 Nov 2012 #105

Most cities have bans on public nudity. I didn't know SF didn't. Why didn't/don't they? Seems odd.nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #53

OMG why would anyone wanna go to a nude beach??! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #54

As someone who is a resident here... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #56

It depends on which part of San Francisco one happens to be in. I live in the Castro & from Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #60

I live in the Richmond district ...not far from Japantown (Nihonmachi) AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #63

Yep. It is warmer in the Mission and Castro. I used to work near Laurel Village and almost daily Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #66

Yeah that would be nice... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #71

I love love Japantown! It is a mini vacation! And it is super easy for me... I hop on the 22! Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #78

I used to go with friends over to the Castro... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #87

We eat there all the time RandySF Nov 2012 #201

I'm in the Richmond District displacedtexan Nov 2012 #69

Hey neighbor welcome to the neighbor hood! AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #74

I'm not really sure putting them in jail is the solution. n/t ellisonz Nov 2012 #58

I'm just curious, if I were to go to a restaurant in the Castro District, LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #68

No, you wouldn't. Though depending on the restaurant, 99.99% of the patrons would Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #73

Interesting. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #84

I agree with this proposal larocks4552s Nov 2012 #72

I'm in the Castro at least once a month and have never seen the nudists. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #76

This doesn't surprise me in the least. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #108

I lived in The City from 1966 to 1971. It is nice to know the lawmakers have retread Nov 2012 #83

Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) bestobdii Nov 2012 #204

Hard to believe this is a real issue. Doesn't SF have significant crime and homelessness? Romulox Nov 2012 #88

Given that seats are ALREADY ranked #1 in germ-laden restaurant items..... WinkyDink Nov 2012 #90

I see it as a hygiene issue. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #97

I agree about the public health issue lbrtbell Nov 2012 #98

More fecal bacteria on your grocery cart handle than in a restroom... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #104

But there is undoubtedly fecal matter in guy's underpants. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #115

On your grocery cart? Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #123

The naked folks have already been directed to sit on a towel Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #128

So the fat naked dudes carry around skidmarked smelly towels. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #133

A pair of trousers is not a magical germ barrier.... Science Geek Nov 2012 #145

One-word solution: PavePusher Nov 2012 #172

If they're really good looking, well, OK ... but otherwise cover up! lol RKP5637 Nov 2012 #101

Weiner stiffs San Fran nudists Renew Deal Nov 2012 #103

What is wrong with you people? JackRiddler Nov 2012 #107

Don't the people of San Francisco have the right to decide Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #109

I see it as a non problem. It is a dozen or so people hanging out in a mini-park for the most Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #122

Agree - its sad that they are trying to destroy the Castro FreeState Nov 2012 #130

I can't tell if that's hilarious or ridiculous. Union Scribe Nov 2012 #113

Well I, for one, always like to take a vacation in Branson, Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #116

Everyone who prefers clothing is allowed to wear it. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #141

It's probably all a vast conspiracy...(*rollseyes*). apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #121

unless the nude person doesn't take care of their body... snooper2 Nov 2012 #148

Oh come on. This is about creepy old guys who enjoy making people feel uncomfortable Recursion Nov 2012 #187

Heh heh, Wiener doesn't like to see weiner. Fearless Nov 2012 #124

This thread is absolute proof that America is doomed. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #125

First they came for the fat naked dudes and I stayed silent...... Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #134

It has nothing to do with prudery and everything to do with rudeness. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #137

Sure it is, that's why it hasn't been necessary for 136 years. LOL! n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #138

Do you blow your nose when you are right next to others? Odin2005 Nov 2012 #140

Not necessarily. I was worried that this thread was going to say they were banning the Folsom Street Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #206

That's where I'm coming from as well. It's not about the nudity, it's about the mindset that says Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #208

Don't they have parades for that? tedzbear Nov 2012 #129

I'm just worried about the shopping carts. eyewall Nov 2012 #131

Amen! FrodosPet Nov 2012 #163

booooooo. stuuuuuupiiiid. NuttyFluffers Nov 2012 #132

Reading through Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #135

This thread... is fucking hilarious first thing in the morning. Heywood J Nov 2012 #136

I was more bothered by the constant requests for money... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #146

stop the complaining! let them be nude and have wild sex whereever they want! underoath Nov 2012 #150

After reading all the various responses in this thread... Javaman Nov 2012 #151

The whole 'people have been doing it for years' means nothing at all The Straight Story Nov 2012 #161

thanks for making my point. :) Javaman Nov 2012 #162

+100 Taverner Nov 2012 #170

They're not nudists. They are exhibitionists who get off on showing their junk to the public. Throd Nov 2012 #160

Let nudity flow Taverner Nov 2012 #169

"And why does he want to show kids his penis, Daddy?" Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #173

Meh, what's so scary about a penis? Taverner Nov 2012 #174

So should men at playgrounds everywhere be allowed to whip out their penises? Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #176

Let me let you in on a little secret... Taverner Nov 2012 #178

No, it's because they enjoy showing their penises to people. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #184

Doubt he saw it, we were in a car Taverner Nov 2012 #185

I think you are getting awful close to accusing gay men of being pedophiles. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #193

Whoa. You are the first poster in this thread to mention "gay", or "pedophile". Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #196

Whoa. It is the Castro. The naked guys are gay. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #199

I had no idea. And I'm not sure why you brought it up. (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #200

Because you said this... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #202

Lewd behavior is still a crime. Men exposing themselves at a playground Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #192

What if a street is visible from a playground? Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #197

Why dont they worry about fixing the roads and the lack of adequate parking, first? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #177

Because naughty bits of all kinds are EEEEEVIL!!!!! Taverner Nov 2012 #180

Maybe I've lived in Portland for too long Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #188

Fixing potholes doesn't get your name in the national news. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #195

Nude != Lewd! lyingsackofmitt Nov 2012 #186

one thing we have learned from nudists booley Nov 2012 #189

If you're going to San Francisco muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #190

The ban passed by 1 vote. It still allows nudity in some events. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #207

As long as they leave Folsom Street Fair alone! Quantess Nov 2012 #209