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lapfog_1

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38. johnny come lately was a relative term

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:37 AM

Dec 2023

As I have copied here in previous threads...

Many Palestinian villagers claim ancestral ties to Arab tribes that settled in Palestine during or after the Arab conquest

Which means, despite any DNA, when you ask the average Palestinian, they believe they arrived in and founded "Palestine" after the Arab conquest in 7th century CE.

but none of this matters... the Jews were there many thousands of years ago. Whether that number of 2000 or 4000... doesn't matter. And the Palestinians have been there either 1400 years or 4000 years by DNA.. this also doesn't matter. What matters is the land now belongs to the Jews in Israel. You don't like it... too bad. I don't like that my great great grandfather died on the trail of tears either.

But I am not going to launch rockets at the crackers that occupy those lands in south georgia.

The Palestinians should follow Gandhi. Peaceful protest and negotiate for more land, for better land. Co-exist side by side with Israel... but killing and raping is not the way to get what they want.

It's not worth it.

You can tie yourself up over past sins of people that oppressed you.

Or you can move on.

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Israel vs. Hamas by the numbers. [View all] rgbecker Dec 2023 OP

Independent sources are unable to confirm how many Hamas fighters have been killed. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #1

"indigenous people off land they and their ancestors had lived on for thousands of years to give that land to other" lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #2

Centuries good enough for you? Eko Dec 2023 #6

they didn't just "live in the area" lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #8

Seems like you are doing the exact same thing. Eko Dec 2023 #10

no.. I am not. lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #12

No, the Bible is a very poor source for history. Eko Dec 2023 #13

and I have read scholarly works that demonstrate lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #14

You didn't answer my question. Eko Dec 2023 #15

Palestinians? lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #17

This was cool. Eko Dec 2023 #19

There is this as well. Eko Dec 2023 #16

however, genetics only account for the who beget who lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #18

That in no way changes that they were there for a long long time. Eko Dec 2023 #20

and that depends on who "they" are or consider themselves to be. lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #22

I showed you this. Eko Dec 2023 #23

Here is more. Eko Dec 2023 #24

And more. Eko Dec 2023 #25

My Mom was a Christian. Eko Dec 2023 #21

I do not belong to any religion lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #33

? Eko Dec 2023 #34

johnny come lately was a relative term lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #38

It is a no win for both sides under the current prevalent thoughts. Eko Dec 2023 #37

I have suggested nearly the same thing... but it should not be us lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #39

That's not bad. Eko Dec 2023 #40

I don't want to be a target of assassination lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #41

If only we could be the negotiators. Eko Dec 2023 #42

Actually, both lived in this area at the same time and were collectively called Canaanites. Lunabell Dec 2023 #29

The PLO was offered a two state solution years ago lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #32

I would. Lunabell Dec 2023 #35

Jews were the occupants of the land before Islam was a religion. AZLD4Candidate Dec 2023 #3

I didnt know Palestinian was a religion. Eko Dec 2023 #4

I think that's why they said islam? edisdead Dec 2023 #27

Are we talking about the Islamic religion or Eko Dec 2023 #28

Dunno edisdead Dec 2023 #30

Original poster they were replying to did not mention Islam at all. Eko Dec 2023 #31

Native Americans lived on the land that currently SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #5

My mother's Mohawk. Yes, I'm all for that. AZLD4Candidate Dec 2023 #7

Well at least you're consistent SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #9

mother was half blood Cherokee, father was 1/4th Blackfoot, with English, Dutch, and Irish.so lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #11

Weird edisdead Dec 2023 #26

I do not rely on anyone's casualty numbers. lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #36