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Chainfire

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1. It is serious.

Reply to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 05:49 PM

Dec 2023

However, you could delete the words "Hamas and sexual" and the same holds true for Israel's actions. The level of violence against the innocent civilians in Gaza is horrible and probably criminal.

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Will anything make the world take Hamas' sexual violence seriously? [View all] Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 OP

It is serious. Chainfire Dec 2023 #1

No. We will never remove those words. revmclaren Dec 2023 #7

TY so much! Some just don't get it. Cha Dec 2023 #46

So I am evil for pointing out that rape is not the only crime that is being committed? Chainfire Dec 2023 #52

You just dont get it. revmclaren Dec 2023 #55

Excuse me? Chainfire Dec 2023 #57

You don't get it TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #71

I have not minimized the crimes of Hamas, I have clealy stated that they were horrible. Chainfire Dec 2023 #93

Seemed pretty clear to me. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #75

Rape is serious? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #74

Whataboutism TwilightZone Dec 2023 #10

Exactly right, TZ. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #37

Read my reply again. I agree with the OP, I just don't agree that there is one single crime being committed Chainfire Dec 2023 #54

Oh, please. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #61

Israel is providing me with valid reasons to criticize them every day with their unrestricted warfare against the people Chainfire Dec 2023 #98

When people talk about Hamas Texasgal Dec 2023 #89

I admit the whataboutism and have no apologies for it. My point is what about the women and children of Gaza? Chainfire Dec 2023 #94

Good grief you are serious aren't you? edisdead Dec 2023 #14

Absolutely serious. I believe that Israel is acting in an unjust, immoral and illegal way in the prosecution of the war Chainfire Dec 2023 #41

Which has nothing to do with this thread, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #76

So "probably criminal" has morphed into "illegal". lapucelle Dec 2023 #105

Wow GuppyGal Dec 2023 #17

Most people ForgedCrank Dec 2023 #19

One evil does not justify another evil. As many as 15,000 innocent Gazan women and children have been killed in their Chainfire Dec 2023 #45

So The Inevitable Question, Sir: What Would You Have Israel Do? The Magistrate Dec 2023 #62

Thank you Sir. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #69

Thank you! betsuni Dec 2023 #83

I can't help but note that you didn't get an answer to your question, sir. Funny, that. N/T Jedi Guy Dec 2023 #100

Refusal To Answer, Sir, Permits Adverse Inferrence The Magistrate Dec 2023 #114

That is the propaganda I have been hearing for decades SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #120

In the same line of reasoning, if you delete the word "victims", the same holds true for Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #21

Since I want to be polite and stay within the rules of DU . . . Richard D Dec 2023 #25

Hamas uses civilians as shields every day. NO the "same" doesn't hold true. oldsoftie Dec 2023 #26

Did you just whatabout rape? ismnotwasm Dec 2023 #27

NO. In my eyes rape and ther murder of children are equally henious crimes. Chainfire Dec 2023 #47

You did TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #72

Yeah, right. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #77

Good I hope that even the thickest person on the web can understand that I am against violence. Chainfire Dec 2023 #95

Still trying to deflect and hijack the thread. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #109

You're So Brave, So Courageous, An Inspiration To Us All, To Humans Everywhere! The Magistrate Dec 2023 #113

+1 betsuni Dec 2023 #118

No "however" about it. No "however" is relevant. RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #31

Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #36

He Got Replied To, Dear, By People Who Know Apologetics For Sadistic Rape and Murder When They Read It The Magistrate Dec 2023 #48

Wasn't ganged up on, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #78

"Ganged up on"? sheshe2 Dec 2023 #81

I had a reply like similar to that but I didn't get back quick enough.. Cha Dec 2023 #121

Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #38

I asked in another thread if you read the full article. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #53

This thread is one for the ages. revmclaren Dec 2023 #66

I hear you, revmclaren. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #82

First post mcar Dec 2023 #63

Nice deflection. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #73

Have you no sense of decency, sir? question everything Dec 2023 #103

They attacked Israel and acted like animals ripcord Dec 2023 #2

Yes they did, and all of the Hamas criminals should have to pay with their lives, but not tens of thousands of innocent Chainfire Dec 2023 #49

Russians are also using sexual violence as a weapon in Ukraine dflprincess Dec 2023 #3

I agree senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #6

Who does not know about Hamas sexual violence? Who approves of it as a weapon of war? Chainfire Dec 2023 #50

"Probably criminal" has morphed into "murder". lapucelle Dec 2023 #106

At this point I have come to the conclusion the answer is no sarisataka Dec 2023 #4

I personally ForgedCrank Dec 2023 #24

Propaganda works. SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #34

That's what Jaypal Cha Dec 2023 #42

Violence against women at any time isn't taken seriously, which is why it's such an effective weapon whenever it's used, WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #5

I thought it was common knowledge nevergiveup Dec 2023 #8

What does taking it seriously look like to you meadowlander Dec 2023 #9

Read the last section of the editorial for answers. emulatorloo Dec 2023 #58

So........ MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #85

If you go to the original article, there are hyperlinks to examples on the words emulatorloo Dec 2023 #86

If it weren't for the label of being terrorists mercuryblues Dec 2023 #11

What's a few hundred vicious rapes among fellow resistance comrades? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #12

Those women Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #117

Bothsiders incoming. Whatabouters not far behind. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #13

Already here. revmclaren Dec 2023 #16

Has there been an uprising of Gazans? edisdead Dec 2023 #15

A large percentage support Hamas. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #18

I am afraid that is true edisdead Dec 2023 #22

Forget an uprising ...I'd settle for just ONE person ...even blurred out person condemning Hamas. Won't happen nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #20

Yep. edisdead Dec 2023 #23

Exactly this...which is why my sympathy for their plight is so limited. Lucky Luciano Dec 2023 #30

Right there with you. Jedi Guy Dec 2023 #79

No, only the children are innocent AkFemDem Dec 2023 #40

Not that I can see. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #28

What Hamas did is horrifying. There's no other word for it. COL Mustard Dec 2023 #29

Our hands are far from clean in these matters. Vietnam. spike jones Dec 2023 #32

I haven't heard anyone here defend that either. SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #35

And there have been countless AkFemDem Dec 2023 #43

So What? You Think This Makes It Wrong For People To Denounce Sadistic Rape And Murder In the Present Day? The Magistrate Dec 2023 #51

The whataboutism is getting exhausting mcar Dec 2023 #67

"without any U.S. military personnel being punished." sheshe2 Dec 2023 #65

You say that US military personnel were not punishied? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #80

Whataboutism Again Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #101

So, we all agree, it's the SOS. What nation has clean hands? What wars have not had such actions? spike jones Dec 2023 #116

Religious extremists are almost always rapists too. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #33

They're Being Lauded as Freedom Fighters Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #108

There are many aspects to the subject of moniss Dec 2023 #39

It is part of the world's BittyJenkins Dec 2023 #44

The Hamas fan club and rape glee squad have no shortage TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #56

Don't take the bait people. revmclaren Dec 2023 #59

I fear not mcar Dec 2023 #60

Will anything make the world take South Sudan's sexual violence seriously? Gaugamela Dec 2023 #64

That's A Clever Line To Strike, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #68

Ouch. I can feel the burn all the way over here, Sir Hekate Dec 2023 #91

There were 14 UN GA resolutions against Israel in 2023, 7 for the rest of the world. Mosby Dec 2023 #107

Thank You For The Figure, Sir: It Speaks For Itself The Magistrate Dec 2023 #111

I posted this about Sudan some time ago. revmclaren Dec 2023 #70

No JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #84

Having just exited the thread about the young French-Israeli woman who was released by Hamas... Hekate Dec 2023 #87

I know, that thread was something else. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #88

Thank you, I needed that Hekate Dec 2023 #90

G-d help the women who were the subject of these planned rapes LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #92

total of 21,672 Palestinians have been killed and 56,165 have been wounded SYFROYH Dec 2023 #96

Yes, it's amazing the Hamas bureaucracy issues such specific numbers daily... EX500rider Dec 2023 #97

Yet the "health ministry" apparently has no idea where the remaining hostages are being kept, lapucelle Dec 2023 #104

taliban took over Afghanistan Marthe48 Dec 2023 #99

No Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #102

As Long as War exists, the Patriarchy Exists, Religious Zealotry Exists, Toxic Masculinity Exists... purr-rat beauty Dec 2023 #110

No. No one takes that serious but women. Autumn Dec 2023 #112

Kick. revmclaren Dec 2023 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #119

New Years Eve Kick. revmclaren Dec 2023 #122

The NYT article is hard to read without getting sick LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #123