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MichMan

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27. Why have other states interpreted it differently?

Sat Dec 30, 2023, 08:42 PM

Dec 2023

Michigan, California, Minnesota, Rhode Island, and Arizona among others. So it isn't as clear cut as it is made out to be if every state has a different interpretation. Even Colorado's decision was 4-3.

The poster I replied to said "What's to stop Republicans from doing this to us? Look at the ridiculous accusations they make against Biden." My response was nothing is stopping them.

Your reply ; "Now you may believe that red state courts will just go along with bogus charges--and you could be right. But if you are, then the rule of law is over. And not because someone enforced Article 3 of the 14th." That concedes that a red state court could rule against President Biden being on a ballot. If they did, it would have just as much weight legally regarding that state's ballot, as does the rulings in the blue state courts that ruled against Trump.

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Is keeping Trump off state ballots a good idea? [View all] Cyrano Dec 2023 OP

Good question intrepidity Dec 2023 #1

Democrats had better turnout... appmanga Dec 2023 #2

No one is 'keeping' Trump off of state ballots. J_William_Ryan Dec 2023 #3

+1 Perfect. That orange sack of soggy sow shit sucks liquid scat straight through a straw. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #36

This hydrolastic Dec 2023 #43

Whether or not it is a good idea is not the issue. TomSlick Dec 2023 #4

I'm sure the current Supreme Court will find a Cyrano Dec 2023 #7

I keep hearing this... hydrolastic Dec 2023 #44

Basically, no one can stop them from doing whatever they want to do. Cyrano Dec 2023 #45

The republicans have been obstructing for 50 years now hydrolastic Dec 2023 #48

This FHRRK Jan 2024 #58

Off topic......................... Lovie777 Dec 2023 #5

and beyond rights they take away democrats Tree Lady Dec 2023 #17

If all eligible voters could vote, there would be no Republican Party. Cyrano Dec 2023 #47

Chances are if he is not taken off the ballot he will be re-elected. nt doc03 Dec 2023 #6

No. Chances are that criminal be be convicted and in jail. brush Dec 2023 #14

No I don't think that will happen. nt doc03 Dec 2023 #20

But you think trump will be elected again? brush Dec 2023 #21

Yep with Biden's polls and the others running like RFK Jr. absolutely. It is going to be doc03 Dec 2023 #32

The election is a year off so believing polls saying trump... brush Dec 2023 #35

Now I read today Manchin and Romney may run. All of the 3rd, 4th and 5th party doc03 Dec 2023 #42

Yeah sure. brush Dec 2023 #50

His support has not grown, and he lost even at its peak. ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #56

That's like asking if the Constitution is a good idea Generic Brad Dec 2023 #8

I don't believe so. cloudbase Dec 2023 #9

I don't think it's a good idea. yardwork Dec 2023 #10

Nothing MichMan Dec 2023 #18

Slippery slope argument dpibel Dec 2023 #24

Why have other states interpreted it differently? MichMan Dec 2023 #27

Again, you are declaring the rule of law dead dpibel Dec 2023 #30

I agree. He is guilty as hell in my estimation but TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #23

DQ for the ballot is, however, not criminal dpibel Dec 2023 #25

I just don't understand why folks as yourself talk with such certainty tritsofme Dec 2023 #40

My only certainty is that it's not a criminal matter dpibel Dec 2023 #53

I also don't like the idea of not requiring a conviction dsc Dec 2023 #26

The 14th Amendment is there for a reason. Each state also probably has their own '14th Amendment' too, so SWBTATTReg Dec 2023 #11

Depends how you look at it Polybius Dec 2023 #12

According to the Constitution, he's ineligible. So yes. brush Dec 2023 #13

Does it make it more difficult for Stanky to regain power? Ponietz Dec 2023 #15

The message should be... LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #16

I think it's bad strategy but correct morally. RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #19

Our constitution demands it! Emile Dec 2023 #22

Only will be a matter of time before.. DemocratInPa Dec 2023 #28

What part of the Constitution did President Biden violate? Emile Dec 2023 #39

Not as I see it. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2023 #29

The 14th amendment does not say anything about ballots LeftInTX Dec 2023 #31

WTF do we even have a Constitution? doc03 Dec 2023 #33

Trump relies on not being held accountable. I'd prefer we not assist him Raven123 Dec 2023 #34

Dems have had significant victories in elections ever since 2016, and Trump has only been on the ballot once since then MistakenLamb Dec 2023 #37

Democrats will run FOR reproduction rights that will crush MAGA uponit7771 Dec 2023 #38

Hopefully, this one issue will crush the Republicans in this year's elections. Cyrano Dec 2023 #49

Of course it is. It's required by the 14th. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #41

If the Courts say he was engaged in the insurrection... kentuck Dec 2023 #46

If we want to guarantee turn out, tiny D would have to be on the ballot ecstatic Dec 2023 #51

Yes. nt tazkcmo Dec 2023 #52

The tricky part is the procedural one. Ocelot II Dec 2023 #54

Doesn't matter if it is a good or bad idea, it is written in the constitution so it is Bev54 Dec 2023 #55

It TFG is not on the ballot, then a good number of his supporters will stay home LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #57