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calimary

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22. Yep. We ALL saw it.

Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:07 PM

Dec 2023

You couldn’t miss it if you watched ANY news program at all. Even the locals couldn’t avoid it that day, evening, or the follow-up coverage in the days afterwards.

Your eyes weren’t fooling you. But the GOP won’t give up trying to.

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Republicans, nor the Courts, can say that Trump was engaged in an "insurrection" because... [View all] kentuck Dec 2023 OP

Why didn't Jack Smith charge him with that crime? former9thward Dec 2023 #1

Good question. kentuck Dec 2023 #4

Jack Smith honed in on the timeline of the multi-faceted agingdem Dec 2023 #28

It was planned and didn't Pence ask Judges IF he could do it? Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #48

The fucker is ineligible. Just go by the wording of the 14A. brush Jan 2024 #52

Jack Smith charged Trump with crimes gab13by13 Dec 2023 #6

So you think Jack Smith had evidence of Trump engaging in insurrection former9thward Dec 2023 #8

I think all of America had evidence. kentuck Dec 2023 #10

Evidence as strong as that for gravity. triron Dec 2023 #21

Funny how none of the leaders of the Confederacy were convicted of insurrection in a court of law Mysterian Jan 2024 #59

Yep. We ALL saw it. calimary Dec 2023 #22

There's truth, there's reality, and there's the law, and what a conviction of a post-potus would require lindysalsagal Dec 2023 #13

Probably he didn't want to muck up a clear cut indictment with a charge pnwmom Dec 2023 #15

Don't be daft dpibel Dec 2023 #17

This is not a routine matter. former9thward Dec 2023 #29

Goalpost movement noted dpibel Dec 2023 #34

Prosecutors only have to answer for the charges they bring PJMcK Dec 2023 #24

18 U.S. Code � 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection former9thward Dec 2023 #32

"Has an obligation" dpibel Dec 2023 #35

Smith has an obligation to do the job he was given, not to report to us. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #40

His boss does have the obligation. former9thward Dec 2023 #41

Transparency at the expense of the prosecution of cases is idiotic. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #43

Do you prefer secret trials? former9thward Dec 2023 #44

You said Smith has an obligation to report to the public. Now you want secret trials? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #46

You are the one objecting to transparency. former9thward Dec 2023 #47

Yep. You don't go blabbing about a case while preparing it. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #49

Two points PJMcK Jan 2024 #55

The DOJ is not an independent agency. former9thward Jan 2024 #57

By design, a criminal conviction requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #39

Sorry but the U.S. Code says insurrection and rebellion are crimes. former9thward Dec 2023 #42

So, bring those charges. They are not required or referenced by the 14th. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #45

Would have helped had justice charged him with it. jimfields33 Dec 2023 #2

Too many obstacles and not enough time. gab13by13 Dec 2023 #7

Hmmmm. Seems a lot easier had he did so. jimfields33 Dec 2023 #14

Charging precedes conviction. triron Dec 2023 #23

In what timeline? dpibel Dec 2023 #36

In Colorado, Trump was found guilty of Insurrection in a separate three week trial. Fichefinder Dec 2023 #3

Yes. It was not a criminal trial. kentuck Dec 2023 #5

Really? former9thward Dec 2023 #9

How many have you heard of? dpibel Dec 2023 #16

I don't believe he was required to be there because it wasn't a criminal trial PortTack Dec 2023 #25

Here is what a Democratic CO Justice said about the "trial" former9thward Dec 2023 #33

There was a trial Zeitghost Dec 2023 #30

100% correct. bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #11

Prosecutors are supposed to only bring prosecution on charges they can reasonably get a conviction on. mackdaddy Dec 2023 #12

Al Capone was a bootlegger and a crimeboss and I don't believe he was ever charged for any of it. hadEnuf Jan 2024 #50

That is the inherent problem moniss Dec 2023 #18

The more pertinent word in Section 3 is the more provable "rebellion." ancianita Dec 2023 #19

An election is civil, not criminal. Smackdown2019 Dec 2023 #20

If there were an amendment Zeitghost Dec 2023 #31

They are living the lie because... Kablooie Dec 2023 #26

Truth, Integrity, Honor, Fairness... Thunderbeast Dec 2023 #37

Over 140 of them are dictating policies of the absurd. GreenWave Dec 2023 #27

Good point quakerboy Dec 2023 #38

A couple of lawsuits to remove House members who engaged in the insurrection have been attempted. summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #51

Trump told them to march up there "peacefully and patriotically." Frasier Balzov Jan 2024 #53

The actual march to the Capitol may have been "peaceful". Zambero Jan 2024 #56

Good point. kentuck Jan 2024 #58

The PB's left early and were hydrolastic Jan 2024 #60

Good Pernt Roy Rolling Jan 2024 #54