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Bluethroughu

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48. It was planned and didn't Pence ask Judges IF he could do it?

Sun Dec 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

Dec 2023

Those involved in the Seditious Conspiracy to overthrow the government, were the same that knew rump was having his
"Save America" rally to direct these foot soldiers to take it to the next level. The FBI even told rump the crowd was armed, and he said they are not going to do anything to him, well then who???

These same people that were told to fight for blood and lose their money and lives, then directed to the Capital.

Remove everyone involved in the coup and ban them from ever holding any office.

Traitors are lucky they have their freedom.

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Republicans, nor the Courts, can say that Trump was engaged in an "insurrection" because... [View all] kentuck Dec 2023 OP

Why didn't Jack Smith charge him with that crime? former9thward Dec 2023 #1

Good question. kentuck Dec 2023 #4

Jack Smith honed in on the timeline of the multi-faceted agingdem Dec 2023 #28

It was planned and didn't Pence ask Judges IF he could do it? Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #48

The fucker is ineligible. Just go by the wording of the 14A. brush Jan 2024 #52

Jack Smith charged Trump with crimes gab13by13 Dec 2023 #6

So you think Jack Smith had evidence of Trump engaging in insurrection former9thward Dec 2023 #8

I think all of America had evidence. kentuck Dec 2023 #10

Evidence as strong as that for gravity. triron Dec 2023 #21

Funny how none of the leaders of the Confederacy were convicted of insurrection in a court of law Mysterian Jan 2024 #59

Yep. We ALL saw it. calimary Dec 2023 #22

There's truth, there's reality, and there's the law, and what a conviction of a post-potus would require lindysalsagal Dec 2023 #13

Probably he didn't want to muck up a clear cut indictment with a charge pnwmom Dec 2023 #15

Don't be daft dpibel Dec 2023 #17

This is not a routine matter. former9thward Dec 2023 #29

Goalpost movement noted dpibel Dec 2023 #34

Prosecutors only have to answer for the charges they bring PJMcK Dec 2023 #24

18 U.S. Code � 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection former9thward Dec 2023 #32

"Has an obligation" dpibel Dec 2023 #35

Smith has an obligation to do the job he was given, not to report to us. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #40

His boss does have the obligation. former9thward Dec 2023 #41

Transparency at the expense of the prosecution of cases is idiotic. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #43

Do you prefer secret trials? former9thward Dec 2023 #44

You said Smith has an obligation to report to the public. Now you want secret trials? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #46

You are the one objecting to transparency. former9thward Dec 2023 #47

Yep. You don't go blabbing about a case while preparing it. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #49

Two points PJMcK Jan 2024 #55

The DOJ is not an independent agency. former9thward Jan 2024 #57

By design, a criminal conviction requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #39

Sorry but the U.S. Code says insurrection and rebellion are crimes. former9thward Dec 2023 #42

So, bring those charges. They are not required or referenced by the 14th. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #45

Would have helped had justice charged him with it. jimfields33 Dec 2023 #2

Too many obstacles and not enough time. gab13by13 Dec 2023 #7

Hmmmm. Seems a lot easier had he did so. jimfields33 Dec 2023 #14

Charging precedes conviction. triron Dec 2023 #23

In what timeline? dpibel Dec 2023 #36

In Colorado, Trump was found guilty of Insurrection in a separate three week trial. Fichefinder Dec 2023 #3

Yes. It was not a criminal trial. kentuck Dec 2023 #5

Really? former9thward Dec 2023 #9

How many have you heard of? dpibel Dec 2023 #16

I don't believe he was required to be there because it wasn't a criminal trial PortTack Dec 2023 #25

Here is what a Democratic CO Justice said about the "trial" former9thward Dec 2023 #33

There was a trial Zeitghost Dec 2023 #30

100% correct. bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #11

Prosecutors are supposed to only bring prosecution on charges they can reasonably get a conviction on. mackdaddy Dec 2023 #12

Al Capone was a bootlegger and a crimeboss and I don't believe he was ever charged for any of it. hadEnuf Jan 2024 #50

That is the inherent problem moniss Dec 2023 #18

The more pertinent word in Section 3 is the more provable "rebellion." ancianita Dec 2023 #19

An election is civil, not criminal. Smackdown2019 Dec 2023 #20

If there were an amendment Zeitghost Dec 2023 #31

They are living the lie because... Kablooie Dec 2023 #26

Truth, Integrity, Honor, Fairness... Thunderbeast Dec 2023 #37

Over 140 of them are dictating policies of the absurd. GreenWave Dec 2023 #27

Good point quakerboy Dec 2023 #38

A couple of lawsuits to remove House members who engaged in the insurrection have been attempted. summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #51

Trump told them to march up there "peacefully and patriotically." Frasier Balzov Jan 2024 #53

The actual march to the Capitol may have been "peaceful". Zambero Jan 2024 #56

Good point. kentuck Jan 2024 #58

The PB's left early and were hydrolastic Jan 2024 #60

Good Pernt Roy Rolling Jan 2024 #54