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20. Trump lawyers' doozy of a filing on voter fraud
Wed Jan 3, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jan 2024

The Washington Post is calling out TFG's attorneys on TFG's weak brief and the fact that TFG's attorney is citing a bogus study that TFG cited on truth social. The concept that any attorney would cite such material is surprising to me and to the Washington Post



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/03/trump-lawyers-doozy-filing-voter-fraud/

Tucked into Trump’s latest legal brief in his appeal for presidential immunity in his federal Jan. 6 case is a remarkable citation. His attorneys refer to a social media post from Trump the same day of the filing — Tuesday — which links to a report from an unnamed source running down various voter-fraud claims......

The report goes on to cite purported evidence of voter fraud and irregularities in five key states. A sampling:

For Wisconsin, it begins by citing how the state Supreme Court declared ballot drop boxes illegal — but that was in 2022, two years after the 2020 election.

For Pennsylvania, it cites the idea that there were more votes than voters. This is an oft-cited claim based on lagging data from a database called the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors (SURE). Such claims were debunked both before Jan. 6 and long after.

For Arizona, it begins by claiming Maricopa County illegally accepted 20,000 absentee ballots after the deadline of 7 p.m. on Election Day. Multiple fact checks have noted that this assertion relies on a misreading of the dates; the dates actually indicate when the ballots were handed off to a private vendor for scanning, not when they were received.

Perhaps most remarkably, it cites this anecdote from Michigan: “A city clerk in Muskegon witnessed a woman drop off between 8,000 and 10,000 voter registrations at the clerk office on Oct. 8, 2020, many appearing to be fraudulent.” We’ve already known that those registrations were caught even before the election and that no fraudulent registrations appear to have resulted in actual votes. But as it happens, on Wednesday morning, The Washington Post’s Sarah Ellison published a thorough debunking of claims linking the Muskegon situation to any fraudulent ballots.

These are just a few examples of the claims that have already been debunked or have no actual proximity to voter fraud. Many of the claims don’t appear to have been publicly lodged before the report’s release Tuesday and are difficult to trace because of the scant sourcing. Most of the report is devoted to supposed procedural irregularities that say nothing about a stolen election.

The fact that any lawyer would include this material in a filing shocks me. It seems that TFG may have demanded that this crap was included in this filing.

Again, TFG's last filing before the DC Circuit on the immunity issue was pure crap. I am looking forward to oral arguments on Jan. 9

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This message was self-deleted by its author agingdem Jan 2024 #1
discrete, not discreet. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #2
thank you...my. mistake... agingdem Jan 2024 #6
Ahh - Darn!! It is a shame it won't be discreet. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #22
"discrete" rather than "discreet", which I interpret to mean limited by boundaries nt spooky3 Jan 2024 #4
"Discrete" means separate & distinct. It is not the same as "discreet." tblue37 Jan 2024 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author tblue37 Jan 2024 #12
This would be the best outcome for Smith gab13by13 Jan 2024 #3
Those "discrete issues" include the argument that Smith's appointment as Special Counsel was "ultra vires" onenote Jan 2024 #5
I didn't know Ed Meese was still alive. I thought he became worm shit decades ago.. Stinky The Clown Jan 2024 #7
I had no idea he was still sround, either. ShazzieB Jan 2024 #13
Calabresi has right wing credentials--ugh spooky3 Jan 2024 #8
TFG and the DOJ must answer questions during oral arguments on 1/9 about issues raised in the amicus curiae briefs LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #9
Lawyers' Amicus Brief Adds New Wrinkle to Donald Trump's Immunity Appeal LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #10
Where can we listen to this hearing? ShazzieB Jan 2024 #14
You can't. Oral arguments are not broadcast. onenote Jan 2024 #15
Listen here: scipan Jan 2024 #17
Thanks! ShazzieB Jan 2024 #19
You're very welcome. Nt scipan Jan 2024 #21
So help me here. Is this good or not so good? bluestarone Jan 2024 #16
It's good. The amicus brief (layman's understanding) scipan Jan 2024 #18
Trump lawyers' doozy of a filing on voter fraud LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #20
those lawyers should be sanctioned for submitting that. it is a deliberate waste of the court's time with non-relevent Takket Jan 2024 #24
I thought immunity was before SCOTUS??? What is this about? Takket Jan 2024 #23
Immunity has not reached the SCOTUS LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #25
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