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In reply to the discussion: Anonymous did not stop Rove from stealing the election. [View all]reusrename
(1,716 posts)70. Unfortunately, 65,777 votes were flipped from Santorum to Romney in the primary.
My understanding is that the central tabulators are where the electronic flipping occurs. Counties without central tabulators do not exhibit this signature.
Do you know what your precinct vote totals are? Do they print to the recording tape? This would allow you to verify that the proper count for your precinct is recorded in the official totals. The counties that use humans in lieu of central tabulators seem to be more hack-proof.
Take a look at data for the Ohio Republican primary. A similar pattern emerges as seen in the graph below. Romney percentages increase from 30% in the smaller precincts to 38% as precinct size increases. The slope of increased votes for Romney violates acceptable levels for probability and must be attributed to external intervention. The 65,777 estimated flipped votes provided Romney with a win over Santorum instead of a loss.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=Rigged-Elections-for-Romne-by-Michael-Collins-121022-13.html
http://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=Rigged-Elections-for-Romne-by-Michael-Collins-121022-13.html
on edit> the 65,777 votes were flipped to Romney from both Santorum and Paul.
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Richard Charnin, posting as TruthIsAll, first noted the pattern with an analysis of the 2005 special election for a vacated seat for Ohios 2nd district, in the House of Representatives. The candidates were the liberal-populist Democrat Paul Hackett versus a right-wing Republican, Jean Schmidt. Charnin noticed that Schmidts votes and percentages increased substantially from the smallest to largest precincts in that district. This was a patently absurd pattern of vote accumulation since the liberal Hackett wins were in highly conservative counties that rarely voted for any Democrat. (See Precincts with the most votes favored Schmidt at nearly 100%) Vote flipping is a form of election fraud that occurs when votes are changed [without the voters knowledge or consent] from one candidate to another or several others during electronic voting and vote tabulation. County election officials conduct computerized vote tabulation as precincts submit their voting results, but cannot detect the fraud because only the total number of votes is checked and vote flipping does not affect the total votes. The activity is suspected in many of the critical Republican primaries in 2012.
In each case, Mitt Romney was the beneficiary. For example, without vote flipping, Romney would have lost the Wisconsin, and Ohio, and Illinois primaries as well as primaries in other states. A comprehensive review will appear in Part III of this series.
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/part-ii-rigged-elections-for-romney/
In each case, Mitt Romney was the beneficiary. For example, without vote flipping, Romney would have lost the Wisconsin, and Ohio, and Illinois primaries as well as primaries in other states. A comprehensive review will appear in Part III of this series.
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/part-ii-rigged-elections-for-romney/
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I don't know why so many people find it hard to understand that Obama kicked ass... nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Nov 2012
#1
How does giving someone credit for doing one thing equal giving credit for doing another?
aandegoons
Nov 2012
#34
I agree-Of course Obama won because he is the better candidate- no one is disputing that
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#68
We know that. But, had the votes been closer, we would have been vulnerable to "hacking".
ladjf
Nov 2012
#52
I don't believe Anonymous stopped Rove from stealing the election, either, but
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2012
#6
Ohio IS NOT irrelevant and NEVER WILL BE. Every VOTE COUNTS so all votes should be COUNTED.
Tigress DEM
Nov 2012
#11
Didn't people work their butts off in 2000 and 2004 too? But those elections were stolen, in part by
DesertDiamond
Nov 2012
#17
PossumSqueezins your attitude towards North Carolina is BS and uncalled for.
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2012
#23
Unfortunately, 65,777 votes were flipped from Santorum to Romney in the primary.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#70
Anonymous could prove it if they did. They haven't so likely, they didn't.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#22
If they can send an anonymous email, they can send a printout of the code they found.
randome
Nov 2012
#36
Yes, I'm sure thwarting his evil election plans would be totally safe, but providing evidence of the
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#58
If that were the case, they would have NEVER CLAIMED CREDIT AT ALL. PERIOD.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#74
"It is naive to think that Rove did not believe he had a "fix" in place..."
marions ghost
Nov 2012
#44
Rove is a bit blind about his abilities and his opposition. He is a control freak not a realist
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2012
#64
You seem to assume Anonymous somehow owes responsibility to America. They clearly do not think so.
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2012
#88
So...they should be cheered because they ensured the next election will be hacked?
jeff47
Nov 2012
#93
The case against EV was made long ago by much wiser folk than me. The proofs likewise are already
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2012
#96
Again, all hacks to date require changing the software or attaching hardware to the machine
jeff47
Nov 2012
#109
If Anonymous did anything it was by definition outside the law. Are you leading the investigation
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2012
#114
So, let's follow the trail of evidence and figure out who created the big fraud and why.
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#38
Obama and his campaign won the election. Anonymous may have protected the vote.
Barack_America
Nov 2012
#39
If they did it why would they try to engage the corrupted justice system they clearly mistrust?
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2012
#67
ever hear of devil's advocate. Rove is a player in an organization. Not the head, just a player.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#83
Exactly, a good player has no use for a conscience, it's just an impediment, a drag on potential
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#84
I was on Bartcop back during the recount brouhaha, we had it figured out in near real-time there
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#89
If only a simple tweet then could have alerted the entire world while it happened
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#97
Just stop. Nobody is saying Obama didn't win. Please stop wasting everybody's time with nonsense
BlueStreak
Nov 2012
#102