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pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
24. I misspoke. It was sedition -- or seditious conspiracy -- that was the most serious charge.
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 09:06 PM
Jan 2024
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach

Jury Convicts Four Leaders of the Proud Boys of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/sedition.html#:~:text=Also%20known%20as%20%22sedition%2C%22,to%20destroy%20or%20overthrow%20it

Seditious Conspiracy and Federal Law: The Basics
The federal law against seditious conspiracy is in Title 18 of the U.S. Code, specifically 18 U.S.C. § 2384. That section of the U.S. Code deals with treason, rebellion, and similar offenses.

That section of the U.S. Code lays out a definition of sedition. Sedition is a crime involving two or more people in the United States:

To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against it,
To oppose by force the authority of the United States government,
To prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States, or
To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States.

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K&R 2naSalit Jan 2024 #1
Kick dalton99a Jan 2024 #2
Gold. Gold! bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #3
And some came with intent to kill. GreenWave Jan 2024 #4
All of them did or at least were okay with it including that dim wit ashley babbit! PortTack Jan 2024 #15
Vote was -- Yea 406 -- Nay 21 -- Not Voting 4 LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #5
And there's a few on that list that voted nay to protect their own insurrectionist bottoms. canuckledragger Jan 2024 #7
The pardon requesters dpibel Jan 2024 #8
I'm surprised Jordan isn't on that list. ShazzieB Jan 2024 #14
kick. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #6
Rebellion OR Insurrection are the terms used in the Constitution. live love laugh Jan 2024 #9
Kicked! love_katz Jan 2024 #10
And 2 proud boy leaders were convicted of insurrection Kablooie Jan 2024 #11
I believe it was Seditious Conspiracy Zeitghost Jan 2024 #27
The targets of the insurrection knew it was an insurrection. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #12
And in a bipartisan conclusion said BaronChocula Jan 2024 #13
Just +++++++++++++++++++++. Attention: Jack Smith!! KPN Jan 2024 #16
The U.S. Corrupt Court will laugh at what elected legislators do Mysterian Jan 2024 #17
Ahem, people being hurt/dying does not make it an insurrection Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #18
That's NOT what I said. Congress made a legal FINDING that the attack was carried out by pnwmom Jan 2024 #19
Okay, I looked at it all, but not carefully enough. Thanks for highlighting that. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #20
True. But in spirit, at least, this law connects to 18 U.S. CODE § 2383 - REBELLION OR INSURRECTION. ancianita Jan 2024 #21
Right -- which is why some of the insurrectionists were convicted of the crime of insurrection. nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #22
Cool. I'm not sure I read about that in justice.gov but I'll take your word for it. ancianita Jan 2024 #23
I misspoke. It was sedition -- or seditious conspiracy -- that was the most serious charge. pnwmom Jan 2024 #24
Thanks. More accurate. And it still falls under the insurrection law on the books as 18 U.S. CODE § 2383. ancianita Jan 2024 #26
Thanks for pulling all this together! nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #28
I don't believe anyone has been charged Zeitghost Jan 2024 #29
You're right. Read post #24 and its follow-ups for more on this. nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #30
Ahh Zeitghost Jan 2024 #31
You're right. Just conspiracy and other 18 USC crimes that are more important. ancianita Jan 2024 #32
. TomDaisy Jan 2024 #33
K&R n/t Alice Kramden Jan 2024 #25
Where in the test does it say "insurrection"? rwild1967 Jan 2024 #34
The relevant passage is under FINDINGS: pnwmom Jan 2024 #35
A great OP malaise Jan 2024 #36
now if only we can get that through the dodo heads of those still in congress SouthernDem4ever Jan 2024 #37
Sorry, but statutory "Findings" do not have the force of law. onenote Jan 2024 #38
The Republicans who voted against it thought it did. pnwmom Jan 2024 #40
Meaningless. onenote Jan 2024 #42
Where did I use the word "force"? The word "insurrectionist" is literally in the findings pnwmom Jan 2024 #43
Let's be clear: no competent prosecutor would argue that the finding in the medals statute onenote Jan 2024 #45
Well lookie here! Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #39
Worst. Tourists. Ever. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2024 #41
K&R CountAllVotes Jan 2024 #44
Bet the supreme court changes it. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #46
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