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Poiuyt

(18,272 posts) Sun Jan 7, 2024, 11:30 PM Jan 2024

Has there ever been a person more damaging to America than Donald Trump? [View all]

I was listening to the news this morning - still hearing about the Jan 6 anniversary - and I started to wonder if there has been single person who has been more damaging to America than Don Trump.

I'm not a historian, so I don't know about all the major figures in our past. But who else could it be? Benedict Arnold? Jefferson Davis? The Rosenburgs? Hell, even Richard Nixon did good things and he did love America. I can't think of anyone remotely close to Trump.

And this I know. We won't be rid of his influence until after he dies. (Note: I am in no way advocating for violence against Trump or anyone else)

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Has there ever been a person more damaging to America than Donald Trump? [View all] Poiuyt Jan 2024 OP

Correct. It's obvious that beating him at the ballot box, like they are saying we should do, doesn't work at all Walleye Jan 2024 #1

Putin who recruited and groomed Trump in order to hurt and divide America Botany Jan 2024 #2

Took the words out of my mouth Easterncedar Jan 2024 #12

Part of the largest crime and national/international mob in history and Trump was a willing part in that Botany Jan 2024 #16

The writers of Project 2025 have laid out a dystopian future for a dictator and a hobbled government serving one person. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #57

In a word, no. Deuxcents Jan 2024 #3

That is the short answer. world wide wally Jan 2024 #55

Trump will be defeated and then replaced by another sinister man. Beakybird Jan 2024 #4

You are correct. tfg is only the warm up act. chicoescuela Jan 2024 #8

I haven't seen anyone who has the same perverse charisma that Trump has. Poiuyt Jan 2024 #22

Putin is a leader in a post-truth society. You don't need charisma. You just need a perceived crisis. Beakybird Jan 2024 #25

In a word, no. TSExile Jan 2024 #5

Andrew Jackson is certainly a competitor. Indian Removal Act? JanMichael Jan 2024 #6

That was more a symptom of the times than Jackson ITAL Jan 2024 #27

BINGO! It's not a coincidence both TFG and Hitler admired him. Runningdawg Jan 2024 #60

Father Coughlin and Sen. Joe McCarthy deserve consideration. MerrilyMerrily Jan 2024 #7

Welcome to DU. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #14

Thanks TZ - and I agree with you, it's surprising. nt MerrilyMerrily Jan 2024 #17

Welcome to DU! Poiuyt Jan 2024 #23

Thanks! Glad to be here. nt MerrilyMerrily Jan 2024 #44

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #48

As a traitor, Trump is in a league of his own dalton99a Jan 2024 #9

Boy, that's the truth. I just keep getting leftyladyfrommo Jan 2024 #58

Rupert Murdoch Initech Jan 2024 #10

Murdoch media empire is a huge factor Ferryboat Jan 2024 #36

Yup, Murdoch's bullshit will be around for generations long after Trump is gone. Initech Jan 2024 #49

Rupert's Rabies IA8IT Jan 2024 #41

Absolutely. Murdoch has been extremely destructive and damaging to the nation. brush Jan 2024 #51

Bush Family Evil Empire Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #11

No, but Rush Limbaugh did his part too. Emile Jan 2024 #13

I believe that without Rush, T would never have decided Tumbulu Jan 2024 #31

Trump was triggered by the 2011 Correspondence Dinner. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #45

I agree with you that that was his trigger Tumbulu Jan 2024 #61

Not imo and the Traitor is Not finished yet. Cha Jan 2024 #15

Willing to destroy democracy with a lie. Basic LA Jan 2024 #18

And to just do it for no good reason. It's appalling. nt leftyladyfrommo Jan 2024 #59

Jefferson Davis. D23MIURG23 Jan 2024 #19

I would add Robert E. Lee too. He was offered command of the Union Army but chose to side with the confederates. brush Jan 2024 #53

No. H2O Man Jan 2024 #20

Not in my lifetime. sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #21

the secessionist southerners MistakenLamb Jan 2024 #24

No kimbutgar Jan 2024 #26

His worshipers will riot and kill if he is jailed. louis-t Jan 2024 #28

andrew johnson was awful. I wonder what the USA would be like after the mucifer Jan 2024 #29

Murdoch. The Koch boys. The federalist society. Alito JT45242 Jan 2024 #30

I regret that I will not be alive in 2124 to see how history has judged that traitor as it will be very harsh. LonePirate Jan 2024 #32

Without those who funded Limbaugh T would not Tumbulu Jan 2024 #33

I think Trump is the worst for America in my lifetime but walkingman Jan 2024 #34

Maybe John Eastman Warpy Jan 2024 #35

Can't think of anyone. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2024 #37

My vote would be Sirhan Sirhan StoolPigeon Jan 2024 #38

I'll have to go with Jefferson Davis. But the orange man is a close number two. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #39

Leonard Leo dlk Jan 2024 #40

THIS Model35mech Jan 2024 #50

Actually, Leonard Leo and Rupert Murdoch dlk Jan 2024 #63

Trump is the worst of all. He orchestrated an insurrection against Emile Jan 2024 #42

The Onion predicted this: betsuni Jan 2024 #43

+1. A giant orange blob from Hell dalton99a Jan 2024 #46

William Trent limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #47

Ronald Reagan, James Buchanan, and Roger B. Taney--- lastlib Jan 2024 #52

Nixon SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2024 #54

J Edgar Hoover would be up there. ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #56

NO. Full stop. DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #62

Definitely within the United States liberalmediaaddict Jan 2024 #64