Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction telling us to shut up @it

[jeff47]

257. So you're now claiming that events in 2004 are evidence for what happened in 2012?

On different systems in different states? You don't have much of a grasp of what "evidence" means. I'm talking about this specific letter. Not "has something weird every happened anywhere". Because if there's evidence to go along with these specific claims, that can be used to fix the system.

Btw, your specific 2004 anecdote doesn't actually prove anything. The modem doesn't have to connect to the Internet to get email. You do to get Internet email, but not all email is Internet email. The SoS could have set up an internal network with email to communicate to the polling stations without using the Internet. Believe it or not, it's possible to have that modem call someone other than an ISP!!!

Frankly, I don't know if they did or they didn't, but that evidence is only a slam-dunk if you assume all email is Internet email.

There is a widely circulating YouTube video of an election machine in 2012 that WOULD NOT take a vote for Obama.

Yes, in PA. Older touch-screen systems are actually not "touch-screen". The way they worked is a line of LEDs on two sides of the monitors and optical sensors on the other two sides. Your finger interrupts the beam, and the software uses the location of your finger to figure out where you are pointing.

Dirt is a significant problem for this style of touchscreen, since that will also block the LEDs, and after cleaning the PA systems worked as they were supposed to.

Why'd PA use this style of touch-screen? Because it's far more reliable under the massive load experienced by a voting machine.

But that is PA. Anonymous's claims are about OH, FL and VA.

there was a beautiful website that contained over THREE HUNDRED cases of "issues" with voting machines - and all but two favored Republicans. These were well documented - and no one in authority did anything to investigate.

In fact it was such a fantastic web site that....what, it disappeared? You just didn't feel like linking it while citing it as evidence?

Notice all the prosecutions? Can you count to Zero?

You don't need prosecutions to force a change in voting systems. What you need is evidence that DRE systems were hacked, so that states move to optical-scan-backed-by-paper-recount, like CO and NY (and others, that's just the two where I've voted on such systems). That move doesn't require someone to go to jail. Hence my desire for these anonymous folks to actually publish some evidence.

I do not pretend these things don't or can't happen.

I'm not pretending they can't happen. I'm asking for actual evidence that they did happen.