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Igel

(37,564 posts)
4. It's of long standing.
Sun Jan 14, 2024, 11:24 AM
Jan 2024

All the nonsense with Zionism being like Nazism is pure Soviet agitprop from the Dept. of Scientitic Anti-Zionism. The USSR was pro-Israel when it looked like socialist Zionist parties would get the upper hand--kibbutzim and all that--but did a sharp turn with a reductionist and simplistic "if we don't approve of it, it is fascist" thinking. Some tenets? Jews aren't native to the area, Zionism is colonialism, Jews are outside oppressors, Israel is an imperialist state. (Oh, when I say "department" I mean academic division on par with the dept. of mathematics, the dept. of chemistry and physics, the department of Germanic languages and literatures, with a dept. chair, faculty, students, and conferences and tenure review. Not like Dombrovsky's "Dept. of Unnecessary Things"--even if it would fit there.)

Mahmoud Abbas wrote his dissertation in that field, basically, at a Soviet-sponsored "liberation" university. The thinking became widespread among some Western anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist scholars who had no problem with Soviet colonialism and imperialism, and scant concern with the PRC's imperialism and colonialism--the power of agitprop and if you stand for nothing you'll fall for anything (with Igel's corollary, "and having fallen once for some something, you'll stick with that something and make it your everything".) And it lives on today in Trafalgar Square and other venues.

Yes, Americans and Westerners in general have been falling for Russian propaganda for a long, long time. At least we Westerners have company.

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I blame it on the breakdown in education in this country. Walleye Jan 2024 #1
I remember Dick Armey... GiqueCee Jan 2024 #12
All that fancy learnin'. czarjak Jan 2024 #21
Dick Armey was an early Turbineguy Jan 2024 #27
It's good to see scholarly study on this. yardwork Jan 2024 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Jan 2024 #3
It's of long standing. Igel Jan 2024 #4
So true hardluck Jan 2024 #7
Good post. yardwork Jan 2024 #25
Elon Musk is a bigger threat than Fox News. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #5
Agree! PortTack Jan 2024 #14
They are targeting two different demographics SouthernDem4ever Jan 2024 #18
I agree. There are different target audiences. yardwork Jan 2024 #24
Actually - because of TicToc, YouTube Y and X womanofthehills Jan 2024 #26
We defeated communism with freedom and elections bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #6
There are layers of funding buffers that hide bot users who divide threads in order to influence algorithms coded for ancianita Jan 2024 #8
Putin/Hamas sure seem to have lots of fans. tritsofme Jan 2024 #9
Unfortunately, too many elected officials have taken money from Russia dlk Jan 2024 #10
Perhaps the problem is teaching people not to rely on social media for factual news. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #11
Maybe, but you can't teach people (nor can people learn) who want validation for their beliefs. ancianita Jan 2024 #13
Yes it is Zeitghost Jan 2024 #15
It's honestly so easy to do it's low hanging fruit for them. "Social" media is so grossly IRRESPONSBILE. GuppyGal Jan 2024 #16
Russian Blackmail? sop Jan 2024 #17
Thanks for posting! jmbar2 Jan 2024 #19
Did you mean to say Russian or Republican? Chainfire Jan 2024 #20
Any more... czarjak Jan 2024 #22
The article is an analysis of Russian disinformation campaigns. yardwork Jan 2024 #23
I read that a lot of the anti vaccine and C-19 disinformation is from Russia or their cut outs. Botany Jan 2024 #28
what's strange is, it is dividing fuckwads from decent people Skittles Jan 2024 #29
I blame it on the deep rooted corruption that exists within our political system FlyingPiggy Jan 2024 #30
Big K&R Arazi Jan 2024 #31
The Yahoo comments are chock full of them. JanMichael Jan 2024 #32
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