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In reply to the discussion: I figured out why there is so much talk about Israel and "genocide" lately. It's Holocaust denial in disguise. [View all]Beastly Boy
(10,496 posts)110. The court is not holding a trial. The court is hearing accusations to determine whether or not they have merit.
Only after such determination is made does the court decide whether to try the case or not.
And I doubt very much that the court gives a fuck about what Netanyahu says. He is not presenting his case to the court, he is presenting it to the public.
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I figured out why there is so much talk about Israel and "genocide" lately. It's Holocaust denial in disguise. [View all]
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
OP
You go ahead with yourself and call it that but don't call is some BS genocide nt
GuppyGal
Jan 2024
#2
I think one only has to become consciously aware to apply it to what Israel under Netanyahu is doing.
Autumn
Jan 2024
#15
Do you think Netanyahu cares about all concerned? He and his people sure don't sound like they have any concen
Autumn
Jan 2024
#45
No I don't. However, what you or I thing of Netanyahu doesn't change the definition of genocide,
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#76
You are attempting to change the definition of genocide. You won't even accept the IJC's definition of genocide.
Autumn
Jan 2024
#83
If you think that the term genocide is incorrect will you accept mass murder of civilians?
Chainfire
Jan 2024
#69
You skipped over the illegal settlements and the pain and suffering caused
questionseverything
Jan 2024
#77
Stealing land, arresting people with no evidence or charges is ok with you?
questionseverything
Jan 2024
#82
The masks were thrown on the ground a long time ago At least now it is pellucidly clear where folks stand. No surprises
tritsofme
Jan 2024
#4
I disagree. I think there is so much talk about Israel and "genocide" because Netyanhu and his government is
Autumn
Jan 2024
#6
And you think you aren't playing with words to create your own definition of genocide?
Autumn
Jan 2024
#11
His IJC's definition of "genocide" seems to be the same definition of genocide I learned in grade school. .
Autumn
Jan 2024
#28
Sure. Here's the link. "Any of". Words have meaning and I cut and pasted from your link. "c"
Autumn
Jan 2024
#97
The thing is that the OP is claiming that talk of it being genocide is actually Holocaust denial.
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2024
#125
When "evidence of genocidal intent in the form of statements by leaders" has to be "placed in context", it's close
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2024
#135
Do be sure and notify the IJC's that their definition of "genocide" is not applicable. .
Autumn
Jan 2024
#48
I forgot nothing I posted the IJC's definition of genocide straight from the link along with
Autumn
Jan 2024
#75
Yes it is. Genocide means "any of the following acts" committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part
Autumn
Jan 2024
#91
From my link: There are TWO elements that must be established. One is "intent".
lapucelle
Jan 2024
#100
Kinda reminds me of some of the discussions that happened in the US after certain mass shootings.
3_Limes
Jan 2024
#12
I don't have my own definition for genocide. I refer to far more authoritative sources.
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#93
Denying? No, Holocaust is undeniable. It is the next best thing: normalizing it.
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#73
Hamas and Islamic Jihad are likely the most popular political movements in the disputed territories.
tritsofme
Jan 2024
#18
Apparently, those who profess to abhore the plight of civilians in Gaza have no clue what constitutes genocide.
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#105
They don't deny holocaust. They can't. The next best thing is to normalize it, which is what all the selective and
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#107
Interesting, thanks for the fact check... I read the Kristoff piece this morning and it seemed off to me
LymphocyteLover
Jan 2024
#49
If "genocidal intent" derived from two or three extreme right wing ministers
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#109
I find it hard to look past the far more likely reason- Israel is on trial for genocide
RAB910
Jan 2024
#33
The court is not holding a trial. The court is hearing accusations to determine whether or not they have merit.
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#110
I generally agree. If Hamas surrendered and gave up the hostages, Israel would not be
LymphocyteLover
Jan 2024
#44
To some extent but if would help if so many Israeli officials didn't make genocide-like statements about Palestinians
LymphocyteLover
Jan 2024
#47
Whatever Netanyahu's surrogates stated does not amount to government policies, let alone genocidal policies.
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#113
Excellent analysis. One also wonders why these same groups say very little about the massive deaths in Yemen, Syria,
JohnSJ
Jan 2024
#81
No, but if you call the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan genocidal,
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#115
You are allowed to discuss anything you wish. I, for one, will not stop you.
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#128
If I understand, you are implying with certainty that the available video recordings and news interviews
Beastly Boy
Jan 2024
#140