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Ms. Toad

(38,909 posts)
8. People have been asking that quesiton since 2016.
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 03:00 PM
Jan 2024

The short answer is that there are those who live their faith - and don't support Trump - and those who like the rigid rule-based structures and selectively read the new testament - who support Trump.

For them, the appeal is to the superficial law and order he represents. I participated in a faith-diverse focus group on religion. One of the questions asked was what would happen if all of the churches suddenly vanished. My answer was "nothing." But a substantial number of people in evangelical churches (generally small, non-denominational) was that there would be murder and mayhem. My initial reaction was that they were being sarcastic, but the rest of the conversation indicated they weren't. They actually believed that it is churches (and I think the threat of hell) which controls the behavior of those around them. It makes no logical sense - since church attendance is entirely voluntary. And I don't think that they would say their own tendency to bad behavior is kept in check by the existence of churches. But they focus much more on the don'ts of the old testament (which Christ didn't abolish) than the dos of the new testament. Because they are not internally motivated by good - and believe humans are inherently weak and give in to temptation absent external controls, Trump's talk of law and order - and consequences - apeals to the retributive/don't form of Christianity, with the threat of hell as punishment for those who stray.

I know lots of people who actually try to follow the example of Christ who are all about love, forgiveness, acceptance, and tolerance - and they find Trump disgusting.

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AN INTERESTING QUESTION.... [View all] ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 OP
Interesting discussion about that on Kos today- FalloutShelter Jan 2024 #1
It's a power worshipper club. Not Christianity. ancianita Jan 2024 #27
A short observation. usonian Jan 2024 #2
organised religion is hard to carry on without greed.... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #16
He hurts the people we hate. SarahD Jan 2024 #3
That is an interesting question. My thought is that their Christianity is cultural. Jim__ Jan 2024 #4
They think whatever the angry man on TV tells them to think Mysterian Jan 2024 #5
They don't care if you call them hypocrites. So now what? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #6
Now they can be called a club of power worshippers. A cult for the antichrist. ancianita Jan 2024 #29
Not only that but the abhorrent policies they support and advocate. #FakeChristians nt GuppyGal Jan 2024 #7
People have been asking that quesiton since 2016. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #8
get thee to the greatest page , ding, ding. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #9
Why? otchmoson Jan 2024 #10
Because he doesn't take those types of interviews/questions, and if it happened erronis Jan 2024 #17
Did the open phone lines bring death threats for being mean to Der Fuhrer? KS Toronado Jan 2024 #11
The majority bernieb Jan 2024 #12
Thanks for stating what I think. They have lost their belief - if they ever really had it. erronis Jan 2024 #18
It's a power and character thing BaronChocula Jan 2024 #13
I asked that of one of my relatives who is an evangelical Christian back in 2016. progressoid Jan 2024 #14
Also..." local Progressive radio station" What's that like? progressoid Jan 2024 #15
Pacifica Radio and some stations that carry Democracy Now, etc. erronis Jan 2024 #20
closest that carries Pacific radio is 175 miles away from me. progressoid Jan 2024 #24
We have a radio station 1 1/4 miles from we here I live now. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #25
Wow. Good for you! progressoid Jan 2024 #33
It is transactional... orwell Jan 2024 #19
Cognitive dissonance is epidemic in the Republican Party dlk Jan 2024 #21
They don't pay attention to that love, mercy, grace stuff. AverageOldGuy Jan 2024 #22
My wife and I have been pondering that question for years. Trust_Reality Jan 2024 #23
Glad you have escaped that alternative-fact bubble and can tell us about it. erronis Jan 2024 #37
They have misplaced faith in an antichrist, and think they Love, Forgive, Accept & Tolerate HIM, who ancianita Jan 2024 #26
Speaking of knowing claudette Jan 2024 #30
In the context of current morality politics, ancianita Jan 2024 #35
That's always been the question claudette Jan 2024 #28
I don't always know what Jesus would do, Sneederbunk Jan 2024 #31
Consider game theory - the Prisoners' Dilemma HariSeldon Jan 2024 #32
Figuring out how to play the "prisoners game" is what master strategists do erronis Jan 2024 #38
GOP Jesus JoseBalow Jan 2024 #34
Religion at the micro level is much more about association and affiliation Ocelot II Jan 2024 #36
Reccing. It's social - bonding or ostracism. Jesus/religion is immaterial. erronis Jan 2024 #39
There's a woman at my church... TSExile Jan 2024 #40
Bloody f'n BS. ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #41
just shows the phoniness of religion Skittles Jan 2024 #42
ALL the repug voters want is cruelty and hate for Dems & Libs. The orange one represents their best chance Hotler Jan 2024 #43
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