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Trust_Reality

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23. My wife and I have been pondering that question for years.
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 04:14 PM
Jan 2024

We both grew up in deep fundamentalist evangelical communities/families. It took us many years to escape the brain washing.

Regarding Trump... He is a highly skilled con man. But he is helped a lot by preachers. A friend of ours said her 8 year old grandson reported that a playmate friend told him Trump is Jesus. Did a preacher help create that belief? If so, why? It is quite possible that a preacher did not. I think many evangelical fundamentalist preachers are personally (secretly) less radical than the nutty members of their congregations. So there is some hypocrisy for you, right there at the top, for not trying to reign in over the top nonsense.

Of course there are all kinds of social media permitting the distribution of craziness.

Religious people live inside a bubble based on various stories that are repeated over and over. The stories become their "facts". Their reality. ("Our facts" - Credit to Kelly Ann Conway for creating the term.) So, Trump and others create their own "facts" and repeat them. Seems perfectly normal to religious believers. MAGA is a bubble that holds people tightly, especially the religious.

Fear is a fundamental feature of Christianity. They need a savior. Trump can spot an opportunity like that from miles out.

Christianity is an either-or way of thinking. It is good OR evil. No compromising, fear of compromising, actually. God might not approve. Fear of making decisions that are not black and white. God might not approve. This way of thinking brings us absolute abortion restrictions that are totally cruel and inhumane. It brings us refusal to compromise regarding immigration policies -- that together with racism and fear.

Conservatism is basically fearfulness. So there is a natural confluence of fundamentalism or evangelicalism with conservatism.

Sad and confusing when observing from outside the bubble.

I know there are many people who are believers AND decent human beings who have the courage to be humane and try to understand and even appreciate people who are not functioning in their closed minded bubble, people who believe differently, people who look different, people who are different. So, we can hope they prevail.

And there are other religions about which I know little except when they engage in blatant brutality. So, my apologies to humane and open minded persons who benefit from some form of religious based philosophy. You deserve kindness and understanding just as everyone else - except Trump and people like Trump.



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AN INTERESTING QUESTION.... [View all] ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 OP
Interesting discussion about that on Kos today- FalloutShelter Jan 2024 #1
It's a power worshipper club. Not Christianity. ancianita Jan 2024 #27
A short observation. usonian Jan 2024 #2
organised religion is hard to carry on without greed.... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #16
He hurts the people we hate. SarahD Jan 2024 #3
That is an interesting question. My thought is that their Christianity is cultural. Jim__ Jan 2024 #4
They think whatever the angry man on TV tells them to think Mysterian Jan 2024 #5
They don't care if you call them hypocrites. So now what? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #6
Now they can be called a club of power worshippers. A cult for the antichrist. ancianita Jan 2024 #29
Not only that but the abhorrent policies they support and advocate. #FakeChristians nt GuppyGal Jan 2024 #7
People have been asking that quesiton since 2016. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #8
get thee to the greatest page , ding, ding. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #9
Why? otchmoson Jan 2024 #10
Because he doesn't take those types of interviews/questions, and if it happened erronis Jan 2024 #17
Did the open phone lines bring death threats for being mean to Der Fuhrer? KS Toronado Jan 2024 #11
The majority bernieb Jan 2024 #12
Thanks for stating what I think. They have lost their belief - if they ever really had it. erronis Jan 2024 #18
It's a power and character thing BaronChocula Jan 2024 #13
I asked that of one of my relatives who is an evangelical Christian back in 2016. progressoid Jan 2024 #14
Also..." local Progressive radio station" What's that like? progressoid Jan 2024 #15
Pacifica Radio and some stations that carry Democracy Now, etc. erronis Jan 2024 #20
closest that carries Pacific radio is 175 miles away from me. progressoid Jan 2024 #24
We have a radio station 1 1/4 miles from we here I live now. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #25
Wow. Good for you! progressoid Jan 2024 #33
It is transactional... orwell Jan 2024 #19
Cognitive dissonance is epidemic in the Republican Party dlk Jan 2024 #21
They don't pay attention to that love, mercy, grace stuff. AverageOldGuy Jan 2024 #22
My wife and I have been pondering that question for years. Trust_Reality Jan 2024 #23
Glad you have escaped that alternative-fact bubble and can tell us about it. erronis Jan 2024 #37
They have misplaced faith in an antichrist, and think they Love, Forgive, Accept & Tolerate HIM, who ancianita Jan 2024 #26
Speaking of knowing claudette Jan 2024 #30
In the context of current morality politics, ancianita Jan 2024 #35
That's always been the question claudette Jan 2024 #28
I don't always know what Jesus would do, Sneederbunk Jan 2024 #31
Consider game theory - the Prisoners' Dilemma HariSeldon Jan 2024 #32
Figuring out how to play the "prisoners game" is what master strategists do erronis Jan 2024 #38
GOP Jesus JoseBalow Jan 2024 #34
Religion at the micro level is much more about association and affiliation Ocelot II Jan 2024 #36
Reccing. It's social - bonding or ostracism. Jesus/religion is immaterial. erronis Jan 2024 #39
There's a woman at my church... TSExile Jan 2024 #40
Bloody f'n BS. ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #41
just shows the phoniness of religion Skittles Jan 2024 #42
ALL the repug voters want is cruelty and hate for Dems & Libs. The orange one represents their best chance Hotler Jan 2024 #43
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