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mcar

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9. No. Ukraine has the right to fight for its

Fri Jan 19, 2024, 07:36 PM

Jan 2024

own sovereignty. Us random folks on social media have no say in the matter.

Also, Russia is the aggressor here. Why would anyone cede them land?

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seriously it is time to talk about peace in the ukraine. [View all] rampartc Jan 2024 OP

Crimea stays with Ukraine, right? Rewarding Russian with any Ukrainian territory is loathsome... brush Jan 2024 #1

i was thinking of crimea as a statelet rampartc Jan 2024 #6

That's rewarding Russia IMO. Russia will still just take it over if it's on the table. brush Jan 2024 #10

they do have a massive nuclear arsenal rampartc Jan 2024 #12

So does the West. No need to cower. Putin is greedy but not crazy. He thought he could just... brush Jan 2024 #16

I think this fear is just a bridge we have to cross. Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #63

Russia will never give up Crimea womanofthehills Jan 2024 #37

Why propose ending the war then? Why should Ukraine give up Crimea, it's their territory... brush Jan 2024 #39

Russia took Crimea 10 years ago. former9thward Jan 2024 #53

Maybe it's too late to you, not to Ukraine though.Why not root for them to reclaim their territory? brush Jan 2024 #54

I don't view posting as cheer leading. former9thward Jan 2024 #58

I don't know about you, but I root for democracies around the world and don't just resignedly yield... brush Jan 2024 #60

Well, anonymous posters on the internet posting from the safety of their keyboards, former9thward Jan 2024 #61

Donations to Joe Biden's campaign help Biden and Biden is determined to keep helping Ukraine... brush Jan 2024 #64

It's always interesting to me that those who claim themselves to be contrarians Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #71

I noticed that too. They never seem to realize that Putin's goal is Russia from Vladivostok to Belfast. brush Jan 2024 #73

Good fight. pwb Jan 2024 #79

Yes, it comes clear fairly quickly, I have to say Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #86

I've noticed that too GrapesOfWrath Jan 2024 #80

Lidten closely. this is important. getagrip_already Jan 2024 #2

It's our weapons and money Calculating Jan 2024 #8

It is our common interest to support them - they are protecting us getagrip_already Jan 2024 #13

i'm on team ukraine rampartc Jan 2024 #18

Then give them what they need..... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #25

as much responsibility as power. rampartc Jan 2024 #14

It's in our best interests to limit this to Ukraine. RubyRose Jan 2024 #83

of course. i'd hope they want peace as well . rampartc Jan 2024 #11

Say what? getagrip_already Jan 2024 #17

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!! rampartc Jan 2024 #23

trump is not likely to win. He's more likely to be in jail. Biden will beat his stinkin' ass again. brush Jan 2024 #20

you are an optimist rampartc Jan 2024 #28

You keep thinking your way and so will I. I feel the nation has had enough of trump and his... brush Jan 2024 #44

If Trump gets convicted EndlessWire Jan 2024 #46

I feel pretty good about American weapons killing Russians pwb Jan 2024 #32

Actually since the Korean War EX500rider Jan 2024 #62

A negotiated cease-fire is "Russia, throw down your weapons and take your asses back to Russia." Aristus Jan 2024 #3

Yeah, I agree EndlessWire Jan 2024 #48

when Ukraine is ready stopdiggin Jan 2024 #4

So... Nictuku Jan 2024 #5

Agreed Calculating Jan 2024 #7

Nope, not even remotely close to reality getagrip_already Jan 2024 #19

Here's where you are wrong qazplm135 Jan 2024 #47

No. Ukraine has the right to fight for its mcar Jan 2024 #9

Please, Ukraine..not the ukraine likesmountains 52 Jan 2024 #15

thanks, my bad rampartc Jan 2024 #33

F@#k Russia. They started this war. They can go the f@#k back to Russia. neverforget Jan 2024 #21

Immediate cease fire along the current lines Red Mountain Jan 2024 #22

wishing for peace on a cold winter night makes no one a komrade rampartc Jan 2024 #34

It wouldn't be peace. If you had any idea of what russia is doing to the people under occupation Crunchy Frog Jan 2024 #55

For anyone who can't read the tweet, this is a translation of the text. Crunchy Frog Jan 2024 #56

Russia needs to hand over Putin and the war will end. Emile Jan 2024 #24

Sadly, putin is but one fool among many.... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #30

The time to talk peace in the Ukraine is when Ukraine says it's time to talk peace. Autumn Jan 2024 #26

Cut to the chase: "peace" means Russia is rewarded for invading another nation , reducing it to rubble,... Hekate Jan 2024 #27

It's over when Ukraine says it's over. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #29

How about we just parcel out one third of your property 3825-87867 Jan 2024 #31

Putin won't negotiate until after the election. Fla Dem Jan 2024 #35

Fuck that shit- no negotiations Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #36

The war is at a stalemate. former9thward Jan 2024 #57

Calling it a stalemate is tankie talk Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #67

Russia has failed to accomplish its main objectives Mysterian Jan 2024 #78

Russia is recruiting from its prisons Kaleva Jan 2024 #84

Meat Grinder AlienAsparagus Jan 2024 #85

You lose me at "cease fire in place". Putin would like that for the jumping off point when he starts up again. marble falls Jan 2024 #38

No, you can't let Russia have Ukraine...it will empower Putin to continue trying to put Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #40

40 replies, zero DU recs NickB79 Jan 2024 #41

50+ replies, 700+ views, and still 0 recs. ret5hd Jan 2024 #59

Russia should not be given one square inch of Ukrainian territory. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2024 #42

Do you trust Putin even a little? NickB79 Jan 2024 #43

So you want to negotiate with a terrorist state? greatauntoftriplets Jan 2024 #45

+1 BootinUp Jan 2024 #50

Giving anything to Putin will not stop him from his goal BootinUp Jan 2024 #49

Sure it is, but there are a few other things going on at the moment. elleng Jan 2024 #51

No. Just no. Efilroft Sul Jan 2024 #52

I don't think our European allies would agree with your post. LakeArenal Jan 2024 #65

There's no The Ukraine, there's Ukraine, and NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #66

Hmmmm Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2024 #68

Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #69

I say not one inch Kennah Jan 2024 #70

I can't believe this shit is on DU Coventina Jan 2024 #72

Ukraine is not going to accept partition. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #74

Any peace deal at time would result in Russia gaining Jose Garcia Jan 2024 #75

Yes, Putinists would believe aggressive territorial seizure works Model35mech Jan 2024 #76

Isn't it time you started calling it "Ukraine?" bif Jan 2024 #77

So much WTF Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #81

TSO rso Jan 2024 #82

Noam Chomsky has an opinion WarGamer Jan 2024 #87