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gab13by13

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30. Weissmann even said

Sat Jan 20, 2024, 11:39 AM

Jan 2024

that there needs to be changes made to our justice system to speed up the process. Rich people have a huge advantage over poor people.

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Anyone Hear What Andrew Weissmann Said Last Night? [View all] gab13by13 Jan 2024 OP

I've been right there with you MOMFUDSKI Jan 2024 #1

FBI resisted opening probe into Trump's role in Jan. 6 for more than a year Celerity Jan 2024 #52

The WaPo report is flawed and incomplete Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #67

Bezos owns WAPO SqueakyWheel.363 Jan 2024 #78

Which has nothing to do with the flaws in the report. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #83

Lol. Marcy, Marcy, Marcy. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #84

Substance free post Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #88

Single, tired, substance-light source. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #92

Check out bigtree's lengthy, substantive reply in this thread. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #95

It's lengthy, sure, but we've seen it before. And if you actually read it, you see that it amounts to Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #99

And yet, everything in that post is True, True, True Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #142

Five interviews. In a year and a half. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #145

I really appreciate that you didn't cave and quit in the face of that onslaught of irrelevance. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #178

And that was 5 interviews in a year and a half in response TO AN ATTEMPTED COUP!! Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #180

It's absolutely the worse time for the DOJ to practice their miscarriage of justice skills. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #183

That is a beautiful summary. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #187

Volumes of substantive text, and yet at the end of the day, what is the most vitally important and glaring fact we are msfiddlestix Jan 2024 #184

Who's ignoring icebergs? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #186

One question. What's wrong with, "in custody awaiting trial."? jaxexpat Jan 2024 #188

The lust for vengeance does not justify pretrial detention Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #189

Okay, so judges believe Trumps rhetoric and the shenanigans of his followers does not justify pretrial detention. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #190

Oh I I think I am facing the realities of our system, every single day this drags on msfiddlestix Jan 2024 #191

Christopher Wray is a Republican and a member of the Federalist Society dlk Jan 2024 #164

Garland "brings the weak sauce." colorado_ufo Jan 2024 #70

Drove me nuts when I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2024 #175

There will still be Garland apologists nt doc03 Jan 2024 #2

It will get much harder to defend a man who enables Trump, and allows him to damage the US. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #7

Garland is still doing it, he hasn't stopped. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #11

Why would Pence and Kushner require Special Counsels? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #16

Last I checked Hunter Biden is a private citizen, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #23

Hunter is the son of a sitting president Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #42

I don't think she wants your help. triron Jan 2024 #59

Hunter Biden was the son of a private citizen when they opened the investigation into him. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #89

Special counsel for Hunter wasn't appointed until after Biden was president. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #93

The investigation was opened when Joe Biden was a private citizen. Where's the investigation into Jared for the Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #94

It would be appropriate, and we don't know that an investigation hasn't been opened. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #98

Your faith is touching. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #100

It's just reality Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #101

Since you replied before I was done with my edit, I'll pose my question again: Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #102

I agree that Kushner should be investigated Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #107

There are many reasons why Kushner should be investigated by a Special Prosecutor. flying_wahini Jan 2024 #135

You misunderstand what a special prosecutor does Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #141

kushner was "special counsel to the president" rampartc Jan 2024 #177

Kushner is a private citizen now Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #182

If our democracy falls, Garland bears much of the responsibility. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #17

No, if our democracy fails those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in the 2016 general JohnSJ Jan 2024 #35

I wholeheartedly rec this post. The mess with Ralph Nader enabling Bush the Idiot King should've been a warning. NBachers Jan 2024 #46

There were so many warnings. It makes me sick. Even if Gore or Hillary weren't the most ideal candidates, they JohnSJ Jan 2024 #56

Not ideal? triron Jan 2024 #62

From the perspective of some progressives JohnSJ Jan 2024 #68

Maybe we can't blame one or two elections. I recall many dems voting for Reagan. CrispyQ Jan 2024 #133

I am amazed we didn't lose Roe earlier JohnSJ Jan 2024 #157

This ismnotwasm Jan 2024 #61

Gary Johnson took more votes from her than Jill Stein did. StevieM Jan 2024 #87

The Gary Johnson voters would have NEVER voted for Hilllary. Jill Stein voters, or those JohnSJ Jan 2024 #96

I don't agree with your assessment. StevieM Jan 2024 #120

Okay.......and Garland's slow dance to doomsday places 2nd. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #179

He has been a huge disappointment and disastrous for democracy chicoescuela Jan 2024 #41

No. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2024 #131

Make no mistake, there is more than enough blame to go around. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #143

Mike Pence voluntarily turned them in as soon as he found them Polybius Jan 2024 #55

And, as I always point out, let's not forget the $1.6 billion Jared got from Qatar IN ADDITION to the $2 billion from Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #80

Along with the "Garland-haters," too? Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #9

Are Andrew Weissmann and Tim Heaphy Garland haters? gab13by13 Jan 2024 #14

You keep repeating lies Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #18

Then you are calling Andrew Weissmann and Tim Heaphy (lead J6 investigator) liars. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #25

Yes, they are either lying, or you are misquoting them Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #47

Thank you for this and all your other posts in this thread. ShazzieB Jan 2024 #169

Thanks for your kind words Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #170

Sadly, yes. ShazzieB Jan 2024 #172

Mary Trump just made a podcast directly blaming Garland for putting America in great danger. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #21

Aka members of the reality-based community. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #13

Can you explain why E. Jean Carroll's 2nd Trump defamation lawsuit gab13by13 Jan 2024 #26

Reality is that January 6, 2021 occurred over 3 years ago. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #117

Excellent point. Thank you. Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #118

and some still prop up those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016, by either not voting JohnSJ Jan 2024 #40

Garland supporters never apologize. Biden's man was always the man for the moment. ancianita Jan 2024 #156

I heard his remarks... Septua Jan 2024 #3

What Stone, Bannon and others realize, is if you make issues convoluted enough and big enough, DOJ et al dutch777 Jan 2024 #4

Weissmann said just the opposite gab13by13 Jan 2024 #5

And that is why it has taken so long malaise Jan 2024 #8

And Watergate investigation did not have to deal with the whole GOP battling to block it Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #54

What Garland is saying is simply not true. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #6

Weissmann even said gab13by13 Jan 2024 #30

100% guaranteed that if you and I stole boxes of top secret documents and disseminated them, Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #60

Trump was charged with unlawful *retention* of classified documents Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #69

Too much to take, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #81

More falsehoods and misinformation Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #86

So he wasn't possessing them? Those were boxes of girl scout cookies on that stage at Log O' Merde? Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #104

If Trump was indicted for possession, so would Biden and Pence. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #109

They asked him three times to return them and he assured them they were returned, then had Nauta move Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #112

Which is why they weren't charged with *retention*, and Trump was. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #126

And Trump WASN'T charged with possession, though what he did exactly meets the criteria Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #146

It didn't exactly meet the criteria Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #149

I Do NOT Think Donald Trump Will Have Been Convicted or Otherwise Eliminated panfluteman Jan 2024 #10

Don't know the astrology, but I agree with everything else in that post. Sadly, I fear you are right Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #105

Appeal to Authority and Confirmation Bias are very seductive fallacies Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #12

I reveal my sources, you do not. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #32

Weird... Ohio Joe Jan 2024 #36

I am a computer troglodyte gab13by13 Jan 2024 #160

So... No source... Ohio Joe Jan 2024 #163

Since you and Nicole have agreed to see other people... Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #63

Like Mueller, Garland was the wrong man for the job. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #119

THANK YOU. ancianita Jan 2024 #168

Reasonable and cogent analysis. nt sarchasm Jan 2024 #15

Merrick Garland has been a disappointment. Que the folk saying Baltimike Jan 2024 #19

Is it the "truth" that the Justice Dept acted only because the J6 Committee "shamed" them? Martin Eden Jan 2024 #20

It was complicated, to say the least. Septua Jan 2024 #22

Yes, I agree LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #39

This makes sense to me. ShazzieB Jan 2024 #171

It' really an indictment of our legal system. Scruffy1 Jan 2024 #24

It's also an indictment of the political obstruction tactics of congressional Republicans in confirming top DOJ people. ancianita Sep 2024 #192

I stand with Andrew! Hope22 Jan 2024 #27

Interesting! My first thought is " how would you know?" Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2024 #28

Yeah, but think about it: the insurrectionists were 99% MAGA bros chartering in buses from Peoria to raise Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #110

Agree. But was hoping the underlings were told Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2024 #124

Here's the video for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2024 #29

Rhiannon, you rule. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #113

Thanks! The video is posted for anyone who missed this. And I agree that it was one of the day's best. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2024 #173

it's a baldfaced lie that DOJ just went after 'low level insurrectionists' bigtree Jan 2024 #31

Yeah, but Andrew Weissmann says "Garland is weak" Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #71

I notice the OP avoids these facts Ohio Joe Jan 2024 #106

Thanks for this MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2024 #134

The OP doesn't say "Jack Smith shamed DOJ into acting"... It says the House 1/6 Committee did that Silent3 Jan 2024 #174

I'm really not here to do the groundwork for you, but I am committed to countering these lies bigtree Jan 2024 #181

Here is a direct link to Alex Wagners segment with Andrew Weissmann's last night. Fla Dem Jan 2024 #33

! Time DOES Matter and all of the essentials were so damn predictable, it makes my heart break msfiddlestix Jan 2024 #34

Garland wasn't even confirmed until many months in, because of GOP obstruction! LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #38

Early March 2021 is only a month and a half in. Emile Jan 2024 #43

OK. Still what is the point of criticizing Garland so extensively? What good does it do? LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #45

You lost me with that statement. Emile Jan 2024 #58

Doesn't Garland's (alleged) incompetence reflect badly on Biden? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #73

Absolutely not. Garland's actions are not Emile Jan 2024 #75

Wasn't Trump ultimately responsible for the incompetence and crimes of his cabinet? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #82

The president of the United States does not Emile Jan 2024 #85

Who said anything about overseeing investigations? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #90

Are you trying to discredit Biden? Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #114

I'm only following the logical thread Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #127

No, you're pounding on the same weaselly strawman Garland defenders always fall back Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #148

I'm merely suggesting that Garland bashers stand by their convictions. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #151

Then by that logic, I'm sure you will be supporting Hawley, Cruz, Rubio, Blackburn and all the Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #153

That is a cheap shot at POTUS Biden and the poster you debate. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #123

I'm not the one taking cheap shots Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #130

Technically Garland has done nothing wrong and have not seen anyone say Garland is the worse AG ever. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #144

No, I wasn't accusing that. I just didn't see the point to the criticism. Seems like a waste of energy to me. LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #138

Quite aware of that. Day One wasn't in reference to Biden's first day in office. n/t msfiddlestix Jan 2024 #44

But anyway, it was a month and a half, not "many months." Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #115

it's sickening, yes, but it's impossible to "deal with him" when almost half the country sees him as legitimate. LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #49

the vast majority of the criticisms of Garland are unfair IMHO. It's not his fault the justice system is so slow LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #37

Garland's inaction continues. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #74

it's a fine line to walk to uphold the law and not hinder the freedoms we have under the constitution LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #137

I don't think there is any question that nevergiveup Jan 2024 #48

While the stakes are indeed high, Garland has a long way to go to achieve "worst" status Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #77

If he lets this narcissistic sociopathic fool go free and the fool ends up taking control of our government again nevergiveup Jan 2024 #108

Now that Trump has been indicted, it's not up to Garland whether Trump goes free Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #111

You have been proven 100 percent correct Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #50

Conveniently the OP leaves out the biggest factor why our democracy is at risk, and it isn't because of his repeated JohnSJ Jan 2024 #51

There are many reasons why Hillary lost, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #72

I am NOT fighting the last presidential PRIMARY. I am stating what contributed to losing JohnSJ Jan 2024 #79

JohnSJ is not reliving the 2016 primary mcar Jan 2024 #139

We will know the truth when Trump and corrupt GOP pay the price PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #147

Why Garland? He isn't the SC or the judges trump appointed. He certainly isn't JohnSJ Jan 2024 #158

Give it a break. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #161

and what makes you think that would change with someone different than Garland? JohnSJ Jan 2024 #166

For a start, an AG that is not GOP. Try a Democrat with fire in the belly. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #167

Both can be true and both Garland or non Clinton voters took the wrong path uponit7771 Jan 2024 #150

Right? This is silly. These are two completely different topics. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #162

Once a bad thing has already happened... Silent3 Jan 2024 #176

Tell these judges that Trump murdering them and/or their family would not be a crime Maraya1969 Jan 2024 #53

Biden made a serious mistake nowforever Jan 2024 #57

+1, the DOJ was focused on not pissing MAGA off versus putting every single one of them and their dogs in jail uponit7771 Jan 2024 #152

I just don't know why Garland hasn't been replaced already? ananda Jan 2024 #64

Not sure, but a replacement would need Senate confirmation tinrobot Jan 2024 #91

the man who appointed the Special Counsel who brought two historic felony indictments bigtree Jan 2024 #103

Historians will not be kind to Mr. Garland. Sneederbunk Jan 2024 #65

they will absolutely credit Merrick Garland for his convictions bigtree Jan 2024 #97

+1, but somehow a special counsel is needed for misdemeanor tax and gun process charges !! DOJ is not only uponit7771 Jan 2024 #154

What did the J6 committee do? MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #185

Weissmann then said that it was the J6 committee that shamed DOJ into acting. he used the word shame. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #66

The statute of limitations is quickly expiring - it's only 5 years getagrip_already Jan 2024 #76

Well I've read other articles that stated that it wasn't just Garland's reticence but also Biden's concern Texin Jan 2024 #116

Agreed Snackshack Jan 2024 #121

As have I. Garland is weak. His bird walk may see that orange garbage go on to destroy democracy. onecaliberal Jan 2024 #122

Me thinks there are agitators about. edisdead Jan 2024 #125

I did not want this thread to go off the rails, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #128

If that were true you would address the facts in post 31 Ohio Joe Jan 2024 #132

I addressed post 31 before, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #155

Then cut and paste your reply in again Ohio Joe Jan 2024 #159

"If Trump is convicted, he loses the election." MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2024 #136

Of course, it's an undergound. Hotler Jan 2024 #129

I'm in agreement. At best, DOJ decided on a pyramid structure investigation KPN Jan 2024 #140

Time matters is right. And we are running out of it. If the Orange Anus is on the ballot and wins, this Justice Dept. Evolve Dammit Jan 2024 #165