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Hosnon

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41. Very easy to knock down because it isn't permitted by our Constitution.

Reply to leftyladyfrommo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:44 PM

Nov 2012

The Second Amendment protects the right of Americans to own firearms. In order to change that, the Constitution must be amended (a conflicting law would simply be unconstitutional). The Constitution has a very explicit amendment process; it is an exclusive process, that is, any attempt to amend the Constitution must be made via that process.

The agreement establishing the U.N. is an Article II Treaty - a treaty signed by the President and ratified by at least 2/3 of the Senate. And while obtaining the signatures of the President and at least 67 Senators is impressive, it is not sufficient to amend the Constitution.

Therefore, nothing the U.N. does can alter our rights under the Constitution, including our Second Amendment rights.

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Matthew 5:10 Fumesucker Nov 2012 #29

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Thank you. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2012 #34

Not entirely accurate. Hosnon Nov 2012 #45

Not "possible", not "could be" - the UN Charter doesn't apply as you are describing bhikkhu Nov 2012 #58

Big "t" treaties are on par with legislation with chronology being the tie-breaker. Hosnon Nov 2012 #62

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Because I haven't heard this one before leftyladyfrommo Nov 2012 #27

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Worked out good for me Freddie Nov 2012 #38

Very easy to knock down because it isn't permitted by our Constitution. Hosnon Nov 2012 #41

There is another way former-republican Nov 2012 #44

What is BATF? nt. Hosnon Nov 2012 #46

ATF former-republican Nov 2012 #47

That's an agency of the U.S. government, not the U.N. nt. Hosnon Nov 2012 #48

I know that former-republican Nov 2012 #49

Oh, haha. Yeah, it is. nt. Hosnon Nov 2012 #50

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reclassified without congress former-republican Nov 2012 #61

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