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Showing Original Post only (View all)Astoundingly dumb: Gen Z Voters Say They Are Opting Out of the 2024 Election [View all]
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/heres-why-gen-z-voters-might-opt-out-in-2024. . .
The first time Elias voted, it was 2016, when he reported to an elementary school polling place near his college campus. He was proud to cast his vote and perform what he saw then as his civic duty. For the upcoming election, however, Elias says he isnt going to cast a vote for president, partly to send a message to Democrats, who he believes dont take their voters preferences into account. I think power is a language that they understand, and by refusing to put them into power, were forcing them to listen to us, he explains. They cant plug their ears and turn their heads away.
Elias, who is Palestinian American, has a laundry list of issues with the current administration that have pushed him to this point, including sales of new oil and gas leases and Bidens support of Israel. For Elias, the deciding moment came when Biden cast doubt on the Gaza Health Ministrys reported death tolls. I just found that to be truly monstrous, he says. Its something I cannot cosign with my name and my vote.
While some Gen Z voters say they are choosing to abstain from voting because of Bidens support for Israel and their own support for Palestine, its worth noting that the Republican Party has become strongly pro-Israel in recent years. If voters spurn Biden for being pro-Israel, will they unintentionally hand the presidency to someone who may be less sympathetic to Palestinians?
For Elias, the answer to this hypothetical question depends on expectations. We dont have any illusions about who the Republican Party is or what they stand for. We know theyre dangerous for our communities, he says. The logic of not voting for Joe Biden in 2024 is that the Democratic Party is supposed to be accountable to young people and diverse communities.
Zach, a political science major from Florida, views the act of voting as unequivocally important. But the same cant be said for some of his friends, he tells Teen Vogue, who feel like their vote doesnt matter. Part of that narrative is the fact that Florida, which used to be considered a swing state, has given its Electoral College votes to a Republican candidate in every election cycle since 2000, other than Obamas wins in 2008 and 2012. When Zach talks to some of his friends about voting, they say its a waste of time because they feel like the winner has already been decided.
So where does that leave Zach? It makes me feel sad because I remember, especially in the 2022 midterms, people were saying the younger generation saved democracy, he says. And now maybe [young voters] can protect democracy in 2024? I see [people choosing not to vote] as crazy. Why do you not want to vote?
The first time Elias voted, it was 2016, when he reported to an elementary school polling place near his college campus. He was proud to cast his vote and perform what he saw then as his civic duty. For the upcoming election, however, Elias says he isnt going to cast a vote for president, partly to send a message to Democrats, who he believes dont take their voters preferences into account. I think power is a language that they understand, and by refusing to put them into power, were forcing them to listen to us, he explains. They cant plug their ears and turn their heads away.
Elias, who is Palestinian American, has a laundry list of issues with the current administration that have pushed him to this point, including sales of new oil and gas leases and Bidens support of Israel. For Elias, the deciding moment came when Biden cast doubt on the Gaza Health Ministrys reported death tolls. I just found that to be truly monstrous, he says. Its something I cannot cosign with my name and my vote.
While some Gen Z voters say they are choosing to abstain from voting because of Bidens support for Israel and their own support for Palestine, its worth noting that the Republican Party has become strongly pro-Israel in recent years. If voters spurn Biden for being pro-Israel, will they unintentionally hand the presidency to someone who may be less sympathetic to Palestinians?
For Elias, the answer to this hypothetical question depends on expectations. We dont have any illusions about who the Republican Party is or what they stand for. We know theyre dangerous for our communities, he says. The logic of not voting for Joe Biden in 2024 is that the Democratic Party is supposed to be accountable to young people and diverse communities.
Zach, a political science major from Florida, views the act of voting as unequivocally important. But the same cant be said for some of his friends, he tells Teen Vogue, who feel like their vote doesnt matter. Part of that narrative is the fact that Florida, which used to be considered a swing state, has given its Electoral College votes to a Republican candidate in every election cycle since 2000, other than Obamas wins in 2008 and 2012. When Zach talks to some of his friends about voting, they say its a waste of time because they feel like the winner has already been decided.
So where does that leave Zach? It makes me feel sad because I remember, especially in the 2022 midterms, people were saying the younger generation saved democracy, he says. And now maybe [young voters] can protect democracy in 2024? I see [people choosing not to vote] as crazy. Why do you not want to vote?
I'm sorry but that Elias guy is a moron. Electing Trump by not voting is NOT going to "send a message to Democrats". It IS going to destroy democracy and ensure that 2024 is the LAST actual Democratic election the United States has in his lifetime. And ours.
DUMB.
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Astoundingly dumb: Gen Z Voters Say They Are Opting Out of the 2024 Election [View all]
CousinIT
Feb 2024
OP
Elias is an "American Palestinian". Palestine is a Semitic population. Semitism isn't exclusive to Jews.
Texin
Feb 2024
#47
effectively rendering the wider understanding of the term 'antisemitic' virtually meaningless
stopdiggin
Feb 2024
#69
I was just saying how can a person who is him/herself Semitic hate another Semite without being self-loathing? I do
Texin
Feb 2024
#80
and, again - attempt to undermine (or perhaps obscure?) the historical meaning
stopdiggin
Feb 2024
#93
Can't think past themselves maybe? Hard when u are the center of the universe.
NoMoreRepugs
Feb 2024
#7
They get a lot of traffic every month by young voters. It would be a mistake to dismiss it because it's "Teen Vogue"
progressoid
Feb 2024
#55
Thank you. Knee-jerk Kill the Messenger with condescension because the name Teen Vogue.
betsuni
Feb 2024
#88
The Professional Left media apparatus seems to be all in on this "Democrats haven't done enough" shit.
sop
Feb 2024
#45
Yes, targeted at young voters: Democrats don't listen, they take us for granted, ignore us and our issues,
betsuni
Feb 2024
#89
Probably the same people who've been saying Black men are leaning away from Dems.
brush
Feb 2024
#103
These people have to pay attention. Very seldom do you get the perfect candidate or even a person
Vinca
Feb 2024
#21
All I can say is "You'll have to live with the consequences longer than I will."
CrispyQ
Feb 2024
#27
"If you don't like what Joe Biden is doing with respect to Gaza right now, you would hate what Trump would be doing
LetMyPeopleVote
Feb 2024
#31
So let's track down a half dozen disgruntled products of inferior American education and quote them and say that
lees1975
Feb 2024
#32
Instead of calling them dumb and reinforcing doubts they have about the value if voting, engage them in
Martin68
Feb 2024
#35
I've been having the same conversation with these (call them "disgruntled") voters since the 2000 debacle.
sop
Feb 2024
#74
These groups of concerned individuals have lost sight of how politics in a two-party system works.
sop
Feb 2024
#94
"Sending a message" happened in 2016, all the Democrats who "lost power" had to go
betsuni
Feb 2024
#82
Where did I blame Gen Z for 2016? "Sending a message" has been around for decades.
betsuni
Feb 2024
#101
Some Gen Zers were legally old enough, but not many (those born in 1997, and those born in 1998 before November 10th).
Celerity
Feb 2024
#109
We Ignore this at our own peril. The campaign needs to address Gen Z's concern with Palestinians NOW.
dsp3000
Feb 2024
#100