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Emile

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14. Orchestrating a riot is also against the oath of office.

Reply to ificandream (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2024, 12:22 PM

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Mitchell: "This was a riot. It was not an insurrection." Huh? I think he just hung his client. [View all] ificandream Feb 2024 OP

There's a huge difference here between a riot and an insurrection. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #1

Trump had already refused to cooperate in the transition process. It was an insurrection Walleye Feb 2024 #4

That's not my point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #8

But the riot led to the insurrection. ificandream Feb 2024 #11

Still missing the point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #15

It was part of the insurrection. NYC Liberal Feb 2024 #16

Exactly FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #33

tRump organized a "wild" riot to engineer insurrection by suspension of EC ballot counting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #24

That's not the point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #26

Doesn't matter what you call it. It was part of his insurrection. Not the only part. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #27

What we think it was is irrelevant. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #30

Oh course. :eyes: So you want me to not comment? Because my "opinion don't mean shit"? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #31

If Trump caused edhopper Feb 2024 #25

I'm not sure why everyone is missing the point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #28

We get that edhopper Feb 2024 #35

OK not an insurrection, then why was the mob there in the first place? Walleye Feb 2024 #2

But it was a riot trying to break into ...no breaking into the capital building on the day the election is certified. GuppyGal Feb 2024 #3

The difference is fairly obvious. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #9

OK but what I'm saying is that it was both nt GuppyGal Feb 2024 #23

It was an insurrection and and a riot, but are two different things! imanamerican63 Feb 2024 #5

An attempt to replace the electoral votes was part of the procedure. Or is that not being considered in Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #6

The goal of the riot? Historic NY Feb 2024 #7

Bingo senseandsensibility Feb 2024 #10

It doesn't matter. Appellate courts don't reconsider findings of fact. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #12

Interesting. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #19

I think one of the sticky issues in this case - and there are several - Ocelot II Feb 2024 #20

Agreed. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #22

I think the problem some may be missing is that is the argument trump's attorney's are making. JohnSJ Feb 2024 #34

Justice Brown's rejoinder was incisive. Torchlight Feb 2024 #13

Orchestrating a riot is also against the oath of office. Emile Feb 2024 #14

I think it's a reasonable defense. Goodheart Feb 2024 #17

It's a key point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #18

Yep... they're there to consider matters of law, not matters of fact. Goodheart Feb 2024 #32

I think a key point here is that Trump has never called it even a riot. ificandream Feb 2024 #21

The difference between "riot" and "insurrection" is in their intent. kentuck Feb 2024 #29