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ificandream

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21. I think a key point here is that Trump has never called it even a riot.

Reply to ificandream (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2024, 12:49 PM

Feb 2024

In his speech before the Capitol on that day, Trump told the rioters to "fight like hell." There's really only one thing he was hoping to accomplish there. He won't admit it, of course.

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Mitchell: "This was a riot. It was not an insurrection." Huh? I think he just hung his client. [View all] ificandream Feb 2024 OP

There's a huge difference here between a riot and an insurrection. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #1

Trump had already refused to cooperate in the transition process. It was an insurrection Walleye Feb 2024 #4

That's not my point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #8

But the riot led to the insurrection. ificandream Feb 2024 #11

Still missing the point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #15

It was part of the insurrection. NYC Liberal Feb 2024 #16

Exactly FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #33

tRump organized a "wild" riot to engineer insurrection by suspension of EC ballot counting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #24

That's not the point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #26

Doesn't matter what you call it. It was part of his insurrection. Not the only part. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #27

What we think it was is irrelevant. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #30

Oh course. :eyes: So you want me to not comment? Because my "opinion don't mean shit"? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #31

If Trump caused edhopper Feb 2024 #25

I'm not sure why everyone is missing the point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #28

We get that edhopper Feb 2024 #35

OK not an insurrection, then why was the mob there in the first place? Walleye Feb 2024 #2

But it was a riot trying to break into ...no breaking into the capital building on the day the election is certified. GuppyGal Feb 2024 #3

The difference is fairly obvious. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #9

OK but what I'm saying is that it was both nt GuppyGal Feb 2024 #23

It was an insurrection and and a riot, but are two different things! imanamerican63 Feb 2024 #5

An attempt to replace the electoral votes was part of the procedure. Or is that not being considered in Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #6

The goal of the riot? Historic NY Feb 2024 #7

Bingo senseandsensibility Feb 2024 #10

It doesn't matter. Appellate courts don't reconsider findings of fact. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #12

Interesting. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #19

I think one of the sticky issues in this case - and there are several - Ocelot II Feb 2024 #20

Agreed. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #22

I think the problem some may be missing is that is the argument trump's attorney's are making. JohnSJ Feb 2024 #34

Justice Brown's rejoinder was incisive. Torchlight Feb 2024 #13

Orchestrating a riot is also against the oath of office. Emile Feb 2024 #14

I think it's a reasonable defense. Goodheart Feb 2024 #17

It's a key point. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #18

Yep... they're there to consider matters of law, not matters of fact. Goodheart Feb 2024 #32

I think a key point here is that Trump has never called it even a riot. ificandream Feb 2024 #21

The difference between "riot" and "insurrection" is in their intent. kentuck Feb 2024 #29