Question: how would you feel if they raised the minimum age of Social Security or Medicare?

[TheKentuckian]

130. It isn't logical, it is simple minded.

What is logical is if you aren't a grifter ass vulture and have two brain cells to rub together the epic scope of this snow job alone would make it too big to miss.

We'll begin with the base misconception that is used to "justify" the shake down, "we're living longer".

You're going to tell us that and are just parroting boiled down numbers, raw life expectancy. I would think that the sensible number to consider for this justification would be life expectancy at retirement age which I grant you has gone up some (though nothing like the span you're peddling) but when you do that why are you not accounting for in any way that the programs themselves are part of (maybe every bit of) what drives that increase of what 2-3 years?

The point always was to extend life, if it wasn't then you'd let granny starve, die of cold curled up under a bridge, or pass from the onslaught of untreated ailment and disease. The programs inherently will increase life expectancy IF people can reach them without both feet in the grave.

Then we must look at if simply expanding life expectancy beyond retirement age is also meaningfully increasing effective working years and if so at what rate? The assumption of one for one seems...assumed.

Next, we'll have to delve into what seems TOTALLY disconnected among everyone singing this tune which is the workforce has no need for additional labor. What kind of crazy does one have to be to be actively seeking to do something that can only reduce lifetime wages and increase the likelihood and duration of periods of unemployment. This in turn actually reduces on the net, the money going into the fund creating the opportunity for future manufactured crisis.

Not to mention we just fell for the same bullshit thirty years ago and the age I already 67.