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OneMoreDemocrat

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13. No, no one should be happy to accept poverty wages...

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:29 PM

Nov 2012

and I am no supporter of their treatment of employees.

There is a difference between what I want or will accept (both for myself and for America), and reality.

I would love there to be a balance between corporations making money and us making money and companies doing what is right by their labor force, but the reality is that we will (and have) never been on balance with corporations where finance is concerned and it will more than likely get worse across all sectors of business...my acceptance of that is like my accepting gravity.

I am only predicting it based on what's already come...if things change as you allude to then perhaps there will be a change; I am with you in hoping for it.

I guess my overall point is that I wish the conversation was not so 'Walmart oriented', because there are much larger forces at work that move things in the direction they are going.

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The closed circle of Wal Mart economics [View all] lunatica Nov 2012 OP

Dead on johnlucas Nov 2012 #1

Walmart is the New Company Store in Many Ways. MineralMan Nov 2012 #2

That is exactly what they are. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #28

Not entirely accurate... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #3

Complete the picture nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #4

Hardly... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #5

Hardly, that is why they sell made in china crap nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #6

Exactly... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #8

So we should all accept low wages? No let me correct this nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #10

No, no one should be happy to accept poverty wages... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #13

And I am predicting the rise of a new labor movement nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #15

I couldn't possibly want a strong, viable labor movement more... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #17

You do realize Wallmart has been hit by Unfair Labor Practices nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #18

It's been a lot longer than just this year... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #21

While you certainly can get Chinese made products everywhere, Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #64

Ask Rubbermaid how well it worked out for them. nt snappyturtle Nov 2012 #26

Not really. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #30

big brands sold at walmart are often of cheaper quality, manufactured especially HiPointDem Nov 2012 #57

you have no idea how many companies go OUT OF BUSINESS when they get wal-mart as a customer. unblock Nov 2012 #60

And Walmart is again the beneficiary and gets the lions share lunatica Nov 2012 #7

The lion's share of what? OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #9

Who said Walmart is the only villain? lunatica Nov 2012 #11

I am not a supporter of Walmart's practices... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #12

One of their measures of success is devastated communities lunatica Nov 2012 #14

Walmart is a business, they exist to make money... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #16

You should and I am serious as a heart attack nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #20

Interesting... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #22

Gets worst than that, when you find the section on the Hand of the Marketplace nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #24

I actually benefit now with regard to the work that I do... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #27

But that is a small exception to the rule nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #31

True... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #36

The US is in trouble for strategic reasons nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #37

It's interesting that you mention our 'cold war' with China... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #41

It is a cold war, and like the cold war with Russia nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #42

this makes no sense sigmasix Nov 2012 #34

Sure it does... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #39

Oddly enough Walmart coming in... whistler162 Nov 2012 #19

immediate profits screw the community sigmasix Nov 2012 #23

Very difficult post to read... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #25

Refuse to buy Laochtine Nov 2012 #33

Well, no not really... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #35

And I do Laochtine Nov 2012 #74

The old company store game liberal N proud Nov 2012 #29

Just a quick question that I've always wanted to ask... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #32

Alas that is part of the problem nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #40

Awesome... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #43

THen you already accepted the premise that Sam Walton built his business on nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #44

Well, I can't refute that but... OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #45

How about the cleaning staff at your practice? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #46

Stay in school..... daleanime Nov 2012 #76

With the tax breaks WM gets Laochtine Nov 2012 #75

not sure where to fit this in.... Wal Marts biz model oldhippydude Nov 2012 #38

It's like a virus. Really. n/t savebigbird Nov 2012 #47

And you think most of those local stores and businesses ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #48

Nobody is saying that nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #49

In my experience Ryan's pizza is the exception ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #52

Well I wish them to get a union, a nationwide union nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #53

I have a cousin who works for Walmart... ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #54

I am not talking of convenience nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #55

I order a lot of stuff online. ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #58

People who forget history nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #59

Not really - Reagan ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #67

You may want to justify it nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #68

It's not justifying to point out that ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #69

It s targeting the one setting the pace nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #70

don't forget pressure on suppliers that destroys WalMart's competition too upi402 Nov 2012 #50

Oddly enough Turbineguy Nov 2012 #51

kr HiPointDem Nov 2012 #56

A "socialist Wal-Mart" would be a good thing. David__77 Nov 2012 #61

Walmart has only 2.2 million employees out of 133.8 million non-farm employees. Your theory is BS. FarCenter Nov 2012 #62

And they are the pace setters for retail nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #63

Good luck with the fact thing. cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #71

Actually, the fact was wrong -- they only have 1.4 million employees in the US FarCenter Nov 2012 #72

You're missing the last step jeff47 Nov 2012 #65

You have described a form of parasite which usurps but does not kill its host. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #66

1/3 of these employees can't shop there without public assistance rucky Nov 2012 #73