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98. Wow.. No, what I'm telling you is this was sold to you as necessary

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 05:01 PM

Nov 2012

and you bought it hook line and sinker. Easily manipulated. You really think people were out there demanding that stores open on holidays?

And this:

"If a business sees the opportunity to increase sales they would be wrong to ignore it."

Yeah it's that kind of thinking that brought on the collapse in 08'. From what you've posted I have to assume that in your mind business comes first, before family, before friends, before everything. If there is a way to make a buck businesses should do it no matter how many people they have to screw over to get there. Good luck with that one.

If you feel the need to shop tonight go ahead. I'll be home with my family. Shopping can wait.

On edit: If you need to see a successful business that is successful because they don't follow that "make money at all costs" mantra check out Costco. They pay a decent wage plus benefits, the CEO's salary is capped, and they don't force their workers to work on holidays. Yet they are making a fortune... Go figure

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many Walmart workers are glad to work on T Day and overnight into Friday... [View all] msongs Nov 2012 OP

Sure they are. bluedigger Nov 2012 #1

If I was an hourly guy... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #4

The striking workers do have a work ethic Bjorn Against Nov 2012 #7

You do understand the strike isn't about working on Thanksgiving, right? bluedigger Nov 2012 #10

Who says they are getting OT pay? obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #14

The lack is because that is what they agreed to do... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #59

Again -- where does it say they are getting OT pay? obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #64

OT may vary... The story I heard a few days ago... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #70

Wal Mart doesn't pay OT obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #71

Ok... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #73

It's an artifically created demand. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #77

LMFAO... this started last year. Are you saying that SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #91

You're telling me things change over time!? Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #95

Wow.. No, what I'm telling you is this was sold to you as necessary SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #98

And you have hit the nail squarely on the head. Profit should not be their "sole purpose" TalkingDog Nov 2012 #104

This -- terrific post obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #113

For which they should be paid holiday pay obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #111

Do you happen to be a republican? Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #156

Repeat: WalMart does NOT pay Overtime. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #74

Wal-Mart does pay overtime...sometimes Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #82

Great post. (nt) Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #88

How often do the people who aren't management get overtime pay? TalkingDog Nov 2012 #101

Not often Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #110

It should be noted that this jeff47 Nov 2012 #126

Oh wow Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #132

Managers and AMs at Wal Mart do not get paid OT obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #112

My husband is hourly Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #121

Opening on Christmas? There's the real 'war on christmas'. Jesus, how low can HiPointDem Nov 2012 #136

you got just right bigtree Nov 2012 #147

yeah, IF they were getting paid time and a half or double time and a half newspeak Nov 2012 #81

Straight time at WM obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #114

If you work extra, your hours are cut so that pay stays the same. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #117

The bulb is flickering. ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #16

"more hours at 1 1/2 or double pay" zbdent Nov 2012 #17

They will only get time & a half if they work more than 40 hours in the week krawhitham Nov 2012 #20

Exactly. And I don't know any Wallyword workers working 40-hour work weeks. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #22

Also... Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #83

Every Democrat, Progressive, and Liberal, should boycott BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #150

People were written up at my Walmart for going 0.01 over 40 hours... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #36

Right Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #84

Yeah, people wanting to be paid enough to live on are lazy... backscatter712 Nov 2012 #27

+1 I hope I serve on the jury for this comment so I can vote to LEAVE IT. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #37

The final vote was 3-3 LEAVE IT ALONE! Happy Thanksgiving, DU! Romulox Nov 2012 #57

I love you guys! backscatter712 Nov 2012 #65

+1! Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #90

Have a lovely Thanksgiving... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #46

The poster is right obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #47

So you thihk people who work for, 16,500 a year are lazy nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #108

That poster is classier than you with your "work ethic" comment MattBaggins Nov 2012 #145

Just because some folks... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #148

+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #137

..and once again I find myself wishing Rob H. Nov 2012 #151

Work Ethic? FU MattBaggins Nov 2012 #29

Yeah, who says they're getting OT....they probably don't geta full 40 to joeybee12 Nov 2012 #30

actually, i believe one wal mart was written up newspeak Nov 2012 #80

Hey genius , are you aware that the walmart kids DiverDave Nov 2012 #40

S. Robson Walton owns a one-off Gold Ferrari 599. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #116

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #41

Union members actually have a higher work ethic lunatica Nov 2012 #56

"WORK ETHIC"?! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #103

The moment Thanksgiving becomes a work day for our society's wage slaves, just for consumerism... CreekDog Nov 2012 #144

Oh I get it. The strikers have no Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #154

You seem familiar. Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #155

And? ..... The ones who are striking apparently aren't. marmar Nov 2012 #2

I was wondering about that. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #3

And many would like to receive fair pay for their work rather than the crumbs Wal-Mart hands them Bjorn Against Nov 2012 #5

Yeah well when you're fucking starving for your kids, MichiganVote Nov 2012 #6

You think they're stupid enough to tell you the truth while on the job? bettyellen Nov 2012 #8

+1000 n/t dflprincess Nov 2012 #12

+ 2000. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #23

plenty of them didn't get the memo. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #139

Labor has, traditionally, been the backbone of the Democratic Party platform BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #149

They are being told to say this Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #85

I have been wondering that myself. Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2012 #94

Sure. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #9

I witnessed and elderly couple quiz a young woman at Wally World one day maybe 15 years ago. brewens Nov 2012 #11

lol obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #13

Eight whole people, huh? MadHound Nov 2012 #15

Good point. And how akward was it for the workers? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #18

And I thought the Rasmussen polling sample was small...nt joeybee12 Nov 2012 #31

Anyone that has not been privvy to the breakroom discussions of a Walmart... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #39

Made up shit, for sure. Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #54

lol. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #19

They thought you were a Walmart planted goon RegieRocker Nov 2012 #21

You *do* know that Wallyworld contracts "mystery shoppers" BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #24

Lots of stores do that. Mariana Nov 2012 #33

It's sad, isn't it? The corporate "divide & conquer" strategy BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #96

Exactly -- and what the poster below you says is also true obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #48

Yep. And so does Target. nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #86

I know. Target is a horrible employer, too. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #97

Happiness is mandatory. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #25

The favorite expression of some workaday grinders I once knew... pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #28

This may just be an anecdote bluestateguy Nov 2012 #26

What makes you think it's haphazard? DireStrike Nov 2012 #32

. littlemissmartypants Nov 2012 #34

Easy to say as you plant another fart in your seat cushion. nt RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #45

A crappy, irrelevant, and misleading anecdote, to be sure. But you may be right quakerboy Nov 2012 #138

maybe. but it will get press. which labor issues aren't getting much of these days. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #140

And here's some anecdotal evidence from my friend's (Walmart employee) Facebook page: Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #35

That post is either sad or infuriating I can't decide which. white_wolf Nov 2012 #127

And I bet they would like Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #38

I just wanted to shout this at the top of my lungs DiverDave Nov 2012 #42

Please make an OP of this obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #49

you said nothing to be sorry for Dude. marasinghe Nov 2012 #134

A young neighbor recently got a job stocking at night at Walmart Fumesucker Nov 2012 #43

I bet the sweatshop slaves said the same thing. nt RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #44

plenty of historical evidence that slaves loved being slaves. the masters said so. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #141

So where did you go msongs??? Caretha Nov 2012 #50

A lot of hourly workers are happy to get more hours. SheilaT Nov 2012 #51

Yeah... sure... 99Forever Nov 2012 #52

I'll listen to smug fuckers like you as soon as you get down on living on minimum wage Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #53

Thanks for another anecdote from the plutocrats Progressive dog Nov 2012 #55

They probably thought you were a management plant lunatica Nov 2012 #58

This. n/t Earth_First Nov 2012 #61

This whole OP smacks of smug, premeditated effort on your part... Earth_First Nov 2012 #60

What the frick? I heard some right wing radio host say this too! alp227 Nov 2012 #62

For most of those kids they want the extra money. ileus Nov 2012 #63

More often, the people working retail these days aren't kids. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #66

How many Walmart slaves are kids nowadays? Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #69

They are mainly laid off adukts and Seniors obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #72

Go to your local wallmart and look around nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #79

kids? have you ever been in a walmart? it ain't just kids working there. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #142

Congratulations for one of the most anti-worker, anti-union shitty threads ever on DU alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #67

+1 obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #75

You know, I have seen a lot of that lately. Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2012 #100

At least this year, I have one thing to be thankful for... backscatter712 Nov 2012 #118

Bizarre, isn't it? n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #120

+1 Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #135

Ah yes, the old "thank you sir, may I have another" mentality Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #68

Maybe not all of them... octothorpe Nov 2012 #105

The point is, you don't work for Walmart wages Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #125

sure they did. dionysus Nov 2012 #76

You sure you do not work for their PR Department? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #78

When I worked at K-Mart near 40 years ago, the floor clerks and check out Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #87

LMFAO RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #89

And what did you expect them to say? Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #92

Only because they get screwed over so badly NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #93

They don't like to pay overtime. I have a relative that came over at 6:00 am. She had gotten off southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #99

They don't get double time on holidays? octothorpe Nov 2012 #106

Read this post: TalkingDog Nov 2012 #107

Yes your right. I asked a friend who is working earlier and they are getting holiday pay and over southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #109

Yes, but they cut hours for that week so that the pay stays the same. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #115

I am almost positive that is only for FT employees obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #123

They don't get OT. They get paid for a holiday & pay for the day. Then they get HiPointDem Nov 2012 #143

No -- and no law says they have to obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #122

My understanding is Walmart works hard to avoid giving a worker more than 32 hours a week. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #152

I asked my husband who has been with them since 95. He said they consider 28 hrs full southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #153

My friend is. She e-mailed this: WinkyDink Nov 2012 #102

I have an idea. ProSense Nov 2012 #119

You'd be happy to work extra hours too wickerwoman Nov 2012 #124

It is because the will get an extra 10% discount on their entire purchase liberal N proud Nov 2012 #128

I used to volunteer to work the Holidays for the overtime. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2012 #129

No... malokvale77 Nov 2012 #130

Just dropped this match in the grass and walked away eh? nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #131

of course they're going to say that Bombero1956 Nov 2012 #133

you'd take anything you can get if you're already squeezed by low wages and benefits. bigtree Nov 2012 #146