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Voltaire2

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30. Yes of course there are.

Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:34 PM

Feb 2024

We had a reasonable non-arbitrary approach with the NNPT controlling the spread of nuclear nations while concurrently the US and Russia were moving toward full disarmament.

The end goal was no nation would have nukes. We were actually getting there.

All that is over. The US and Russia are modernizing and upgrading and arbitrarily abandoning treaty obligations. China is increasing its nuclear forces. TSF blew up the Iran deal for no good reason, ending any hope of keeping them out of the club.

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Why the U.S. should start telling the whole truth about Israeli nukes [View all] Celerity Feb 2024 OP

I always assumed they had them. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #1

Ukraine was pressured to give up it's nukes, and here we sit today Kennah Feb 2024 #2

I see that get tossed around here a lot. It's a bit more complicated. Xolodno Feb 2024 #19

Russia and the US promised Ukraine security, and they haven't kept their word. Facts oneliners. Kennah Feb 2024 #20

And I'm simply positing additional facts. Xolodno Feb 2024 #23

You're attributing to monsters the ability to apprehend nuance Kennah Feb 2024 #24

Don't know where that's coming from. Xolodno Feb 2024 #25

Nukes require constant maintenance and regular testing DBoon Feb 2024 #26

This could be said of several countries with nukes and probably less technical competence than Ukraine Kennah Feb 2024 #31

Israel will never give up its nuclear weapons, nor should they. former9thward Feb 2024 #3

North Korea will never give up their nukes. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #4

Wow. comparing N. Korea with Israel? MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2024 #5

I'm sorry but which city is NK besieging? Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #6

I never said that the Norks couldn't have nukes. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2024 #7

Ok then we are in agreement. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #11

I'm not ok with anyone having nukes, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2024 #15

Its one or the other. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #28

I Would Say The Difference Is This, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #10

So the basis for determining who should be Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #14

Is There Really Another One, Do You Think? The Magistrate Feb 2024 #17

Yes of course there are. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #30

If You Actually Think The US And Russia Were Seriously Intending To Foreswear Nuclear Weapons, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #34

They actually were both engaged Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #35

I Just Don't Take The Press Releases Seriously, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #37

Part of the process was mutual verification, but this discussion is pointless. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #38

I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #39

Besieging? To the degree they can South Korea and to a degree Japan. TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #22

Hamas has been labeled "freedom fighters like Mandela" by one member BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #8

I'm sorry but how is asking about NK's nukes Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #13

The difference is that Israel has proven their responsibility with nukes ripcord Feb 2024 #36

Israel minister renews call for striking Gaza with 'nuclear bomb' Celerity Feb 2024 #9

Unfortunately True, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 2024 #12

Insanity. Like nuke fallout would stay only within the borders of Gaza. brush Feb 2024 #27

The links below explain in detail why Israel revmclaren Feb 2024 #16

What truth? That Israel has/can produce nuclear weapons? sarisataka Feb 2024 #18

Madness malaise Feb 2024 #21

The future is a world of mutually assured destruction. Many states will have the capacity to cause "doomsday". David__77 Feb 2024 #29

Israel had legitimate security concerns when they bought yellow cake uranium from the Argentines in '63 ripcord Feb 2024 #32

DURec leftstreet Feb 2024 #33