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In reply to the discussion: The heart of the problem is that most People like Walmart [View all]cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)63. Sorry, but you are mistaken about the nature of markets.
The error is so fundamental that it is hard to know where to start.
It really drives me when people act as if "the laws of the market-place" are anything other than rules, that any given country designs, to regulate or control its economy.
The nature of the marketplace is that thing which is regulated by rules, "that any given country designs, to regulate or control its economy."
Don't you recognize that the regulations you refer to wouldn't do a thing if there was not a natural state to regulate?
Government obviously does not create the base conditions of the marketplace. If it did then there could be not marketplace without government, which would mean evolution doesn't work and none of us even exist.
Have you asked yourself, regarding your picture of the matter, "What would the world be like if this was true?"
Have you ever wondered why all mass transit systems that charge a fee to ride have mechanisms to deal with people wanting to ride for free? Why aren't there enough people choosing to pay double to off-set the people choosing to pay zero?
Where did the tragedy of the commons come from? It quite obviously is not a government invention.
Most people prefer the most in exchange for the least... intrinsically. That is the raw material that economic rules shape.
A cat will take greater risks to get meat the hungrier the cat is. That is an economic risk/reward decision the cat makes.
What government created the first human act of barter?
Natural laws dictate that given our particular set of rules and our particular environment, the action of natural laws within our economy, within our regulatory constrains, or lack of restraints, something(s) Walmart will tend to exist.
Start torturing everyone who owns a chain with more than five stores and Walmart will be much less likely to exist. Did the government create our human aversion to being tortured? Was everyone fine with pain until government came along?
We might as well say that gravity is something created by elevators.
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Unless one is expecting a hero to set things right, villainous is not a useful category
cthulu2016
Nov 2012
#2
"The whole horrible thing operates from the collisions of human nature and material reality"
iemitsu
Nov 2012
#18
Classic Blame the Victims post. If you don't like villain, try predator. That's quantifiable,
leveymg
Nov 2012
#38
"the walmart customer is equally culpable" = false equivalency because of the
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#45
oh, baloney. 'customer demand' isn't responsible for walmart's move to foreign
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#47
Short-term thinking is cancerous in cases like these. Liking WalMart because you like ...
Scuba
Nov 2012
#6
I've spent more hours in used book stores than I can count. When I die, my ghost will haunt one.
Scuba
Nov 2012
#13
The solution is that they need to grow the fuck up, face that they're feeding the predator...
ancianita
Nov 2012
#22
Amen and hallelujah! I urge all to comparison shop. I say this because I've
snappyturtle
Nov 2012
#39
If these corporations were making use of overseas labor but still allowing us to maintain
brewens
Nov 2012
#27
George McGovern, ca. 1972, propsoed a Guaranteed Annual Income (aka
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#32
"like"? compared to what? most people earn less than $16/hour, that's why they
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#44
Some items can't be purchased online efficiently and high volume sellers can't handle
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#61