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5. Without all that hard work by the Obama team, Obama would never have won but....

Reply to graham4anything (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 08:00 AM

Nov 2012

We have seen RepubliCONS over and over again, lie, cheat and commit treason to win the presidency. Nixon and his treasonous dealing with Vietnam during the war. Raygun and his treasonous dealing with the hostage terrorist in Iran. Bush and his bringing in his daddy's Supreme Court to vote him in even if the votes said otherwise. Then again, the bushes rigging the Ohio numbers in 2004. Todays RepubliCONS are some of the dirtiest criminals in the history of politics and to claim they would NOT attempt to rig an election is to claim the earth is flat. It's NOT a theory that Nixon and Raygun committed treason. It is NOT a theory that W did NOT have enough votes in Florida to win which is why he took it to the supremes. It's NOT a theory that the voting computers went dark in Ohio in 2004 then magically came back with different numbers showing the bushes in the lead. These are NOT conspiracy theories. They are facts.

To suspect the RepubliCONS of trying the same thing in 2012 is to merely be aware of the truth.

Yes, Obama won because he deserved it. But Rove would have stolen it if he could have.

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David Carr-NY Times "For One Night at Fox, News tops Agenda"- article & MY RANT against CTers. [View all] graham4anything Nov 2012 OP

David Carr-the media equation "For One Night at Fox, News tops Agenda"- graham4anything Nov 2012 #1

Good read n/t malaise Nov 2012 #3

Fox's part in the apparatus began long before the election JHB Nov 2012 #10

News my as* --- they just didn't want to be permanently associated with THE LOSER!! nt Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #58

Thank you OKNancy Nov 2012 #2

I don't think there are any people who would glowing Nov 2012 #4

+1 DeeDeeNY Nov 2012 #6

+2 bahrbearian Nov 2012 #21

Without all that hard work by the Obama team, Obama would never have won but.... fasttense Nov 2012 #5

i think so too barbtries Nov 2012 #7

I must disagree with you about 2016 and 2020. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #8

Those who forget history nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #9

Those who are confined by history are trapped into repeating it. randome Nov 2012 #12

Well, barring little things like, say alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #11

SO you think the GOP is done nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13

No, I think using 1964 and 1972 is just plain silly alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #17

It's not a silly analogy because it's not an analogy. It's just a warning against complacency. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #40

1968 was the democrats fault for tossing the 3rd greatest president ever in the river graham4anything Nov 2012 #16

"Vietnam was a stupid wedge issue distraction..." alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #18

That stood out to me also and gave me a sort of nasty feeling in the pit sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24

I see your strategy but I am not biting. graham4anything Nov 2012 #28

Isn't life itself performance art? (referencing the response above) graham4anything Nov 2012 #38

Life is indeed a work of art alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #64

add my 80,000 plus posts at CGCS with the 3000s more Kerry board,& 1000s more on Gore boards graham4anything Nov 2012 #70

We must stay aggressive. Obama's OFA is still active, just go to it's website. The organization bluestate10 Nov 2012 #19

Yes President Obama won fair and square nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14

Nader and the 97,000 people that voted for him in Florida put Bush in office. The sooner that bluestate10 Nov 2012 #20

Wrong , Nader was right. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #22

Problem is, and this is puzzling, well not really... nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23

THE SUPREME COURT- you mean the one that Nader lied and said Bush/Gore were the same? graham4anything Nov 2012 #29

Escuse me, but NADER had nothing to do with taht decision nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #30

Again, if Gore won NH, the US Supreme Court would never have been called in. Election over in NH graham4anything Nov 2012 #31

What I do not understand is your hate for the democratic system nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #34

So sad to see you trying so hard to make a crime out of something sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #35

You lost your own point. Gore/Kerry did not have the community organization Obama did. graham4anything Nov 2012 #37

Wrong, but keep on thinking that. Thankfully a majority of Dems sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #25

Blaming Nader stops Democrats from wasting their vote again in any new election graham4anything Nov 2012 #27

Are you that ingnorant of history? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #33

I have nothing against that. 50% should be required though. with a runoff. graham4anything Nov 2012 #36

We have 52 states? zappaman Nov 2012 #81

I don't know what to say to you if you think that blaming Nader sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #39

Before you call people names, let me ask you-were you on the street protesting in 2000 in Fl or DC? graham4anything Nov 2012 #42

They will never admit it. One of the 99 Nov 2012 #54

The persistent claim that Anonymous somehow... bvar22 Nov 2012 #15

"WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE and nobody could have or would have stolen it because WE WON..." Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #26

Al Gore didn't get to say it because of Ralph Nader. graham4anything Nov 2012 #32

Nader was a factor, but if all votes had been counted we'd never had to suffer Bewsh. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #41

SHh, already mentioned that, but nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #43

If one believes Nader, then one agrees Bush and Gore were the same & Bush&Kerry the same graham4anything Nov 2012 #44

I'm a Gore fan RobertEarl Nov 2012 #45

as President Obama says FORWARD. Gore won NH without Nader. graham4anything Nov 2012 #46

Go to bed RobertEarl Nov 2012 #48

This thread is about how President Obama won with no help from a hacker graham4anything Nov 2012 #50

I've always wondered if this 'blame Nader' was meant sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #78

I see Nader blamers as authoritarians RobertEarl Nov 2012 #80

While you prattle on Nader nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #60

This thread is being hijacked by Ralph Nader fans. A terrorist hacker did not help President Obama graham4anything Nov 2012 #47

You have Nader on the brain? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #49

stop with the conspiracy theories. Terrorist hackers belong in jail. Anarchy is not democracy. graham4anything Nov 2012 #51

Right E-vote is anarchy RobertEarl Nov 2012 #52

So do you believe Nader's line that Bush and Gore were one and the same? graham4anything Nov 2012 #53

Get Nader off your head RobertEarl Nov 2012 #55

Funny you and the 2 others do not answer that question. Backing Nader means believing his lies. graham4anything Nov 2012 #57

Vote for Hillary in 2016 and make sure Jeb doesn't win. Then there is no problem. graham4anything Nov 2012 #56

What if...perish the though, Hillary don't run? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #59

Vote for Michelle. And keep Chicago together.Remember, Chicago wins elections and is a good word graham4anything Nov 2012 #62

And Michelle is running? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #65

2025-2032. Michelle46, followed by Chelsea47 after Hillary45 and President Obama44 retire graham4anything Nov 2012 #69

We call that a coronation, not an election nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #73

What do you mean it's been proven false?? reusrename Nov 2012 #61

It was proven false above on this thread by someone living in Ohio. I trust they would know graham4anything Nov 2012 #63

I agree with everything you say, especially the part about Wellstone. reusrename Nov 2012 #66

RUUUNNNN. COMIES UNDER MY BED!!! nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #68

152 electoral votes. And they would all be Dem votes. Very simple, once you understand graham4anything Nov 2012 #71

No, there is no brain freeze here nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #72

If you believe in an anarchist who cowardly doesn't reveal their name(the hacker) then admit it. graham4anything Nov 2012 #74

Lead a horse to water comes at this point nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #75

What you are saying is...(I think) that... graham4anything Nov 2012 #76

No, that is what you are saying nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #77

No, that is what you are saying. If we both are saying it, then we are in agreement. graham4anything Nov 2012 #79

Ah red baiting again nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #82

the only red I bait is redstates. I love socialists & Communists. Especially REAL ones. graham4anything Nov 2012 #83

Are you saying the 2000 and 2004 elections were not stolen? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #84

Dirty tricks changed 2000, yes. But dirty tricks have been part of many an election. graham4anything Nov 2012 #87

So you don't believe the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. That's all I wanted sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #88

No one mentioned any terrorist hacker. Can you link to that information please? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #85

the guy/woman with no name. Whom you have credited with stopping Karl Rove. graham4anything Nov 2012 #86

You're not making any sense. Maybe you thought you were talking sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #89

It was a great GOTV effort, but it doesn't deny the fact that an election can easily be joeybee12 Nov 2012 #67