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marmar

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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:52 AM Nov 2012

Striking Wal-Mart workers aren't just fighting their employer. They're fighting a whole system. [View all]


from The Atlantic:


Who's Really to Blame for the Wal-Mart Strikes? The American Consumer
By Jordan Weissmann


The Wal-Mart workers threatening to walk off the job on Black Friday aren't just fighting their employer. They're fighting a whole system.


Forget the stampeding shoppers, the half-priced waffle irons, or the pepper spray wielding wackos: barring a federal intervention, the main event this Black Friday could turn out to be a showdown between organized labor and its arch corporate nemesis, Wal-Mart.

After organizing the first retail workers' strikes in the company's 50-year history last month, a union-backed group has promised to lead work stoppages and demonstrations at Wal-Mart stores around the country this holiday weekend in protest of its famously aggressive labor practices. Nobody truly knows how big the turnout will be, or if even more than a handful of Wal-Mart's 1.4 million U.S. employees will actually walk off the job. We might witness something historic, or we might witness a sideshow that shoppers ignore while brawling for bargains. Either way, the threat has made Wal-Mart nervous enough to ask the National Labor Relations Board for an injunction stopping the protests. Should they go on, they will be a test of whether, after years of failing to organize the country's largest employer, labor groups still have the wherewithal to take it on.

It would be a mistake, however, to think of this simply as a clash over one company. Rather, it's symptomatic of forces Wal-Mart helped set in motion and now shape our economy in fundamental way. It's about big box retail's refusal to pay a decent wage. It's about the way we've stacked the deck against unions. And it's about the choices we make as consumers.

Wal-Mart's Bad, But the Competition Isn't Much Better

As Harold Meyerson noted recently in The American Prospect, whereas Ford and General Motors paid their factory workers enough to buy the cars they built, Wal-Mart rose up by paying "its workers so little they had to shop at discount stores like Wal-Mart." ........................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/whos-really-to-blame-for-the-wal-mart-strikes-the-american-consumer/265542/



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add to that the tax incentives they onethatcares Nov 2012 #1
du rec. #10. nt xchrom Nov 2012 #2
The chorus I hear from friends is "but I get great deals there on Friday!" AllyCat Nov 2012 #3
Wal-Mart is like a viral infection. And R&D for a vaccine has been blocked by the system. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #4
Why would consumers support unions that lead to higher prices, poorer service and quality? FarCenter Nov 2012 #5
Que? marmar Nov 2012 #6
There are twice as many consumers than workers; 7 times as many workers as union members. FarCenter Nov 2012 #8
You're missinformed lunatica Nov 2012 #13
Union membership, 2011 FarCenter Nov 2012 #15
In fact, unions increase the wages CitizenPatriot Nov 2012 #18
Right to work states tend to have low cost of living. FarCenter Nov 2012 #21
Well look back at the standard of living for everyone and see how much better it was xtraxritical Nov 2012 #37
We were WW II arms merchant's to the winning side and had the only intact manufacturing base FarCenter Nov 2012 #39
You look at the results without bothering to see how they got there lunatica Nov 2012 #42
It seems the concept of solidarity has escaped you Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #23
Just a couple of problems with your logic: ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #28
The problem with your logic is that American unions are more like Guilds FarCenter Nov 2012 #32
You are completely misinformed about the work and mission of unions. iemitsu Nov 2012 #38
He/she is willfully missinformed lunatica Nov 2012 #43
yeah, it is obvious. iemitsu Nov 2012 #52
I don't think *ALL U.S. workers* who in fact enjoy benefits fought for and gained by Unions... ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #40
Are you kidding me? redwitch Nov 2012 #7
Exactly! Unions benefit all workers, not just union workers. ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #29
Because they care about their community more than just themselves? CrispyQ Nov 2012 #9
Right on, CrispyQ iemitsu Nov 2012 #41
That is a very good addition! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #46
Are you kidding me??? Jbradshaw120 Nov 2012 #10
Even corporate management benefits from a union shop. iemitsu Nov 2012 #44
What??????? Marrah_G Nov 2012 #11
"Poorer service and quality"? Chef Eric Nov 2012 #14
Union greivance procedures make it more difficult to fire poor workers FarCenter Nov 2012 #16
You are either woefully misinformed about unions.... llmart Nov 2012 #19
Irony CitizenPatriot Nov 2012 #20
Wow..Right out of the Union Busters Corporate Handbook Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #50
Many consumers support unions because consumers are also workers and humblebum Nov 2012 #22
Wow. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #26
11,000+ posts here I see SHRED Nov 2012 #27
The Democratic Party is based on other things than pro-union FarCenter Nov 2012 #31
yes to all you say... SHRED Nov 2012 #33
The Democratic Party supports organized labor at its peril FarCenter Nov 2012 #34
If it wasn't for organized labor and the boots on the ground they provided... SHRED Nov 2012 #35
You are an insulting and mis-informed fool to suggest iemitsu Nov 2012 #47
The Democratic Party supports Corporate scumbags and Third Way scab assholes at its peril Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #51
All those benefits that you enjoy today, you can thank a union member like my dad neverforget Nov 2012 #45
+14k lonestarnot Nov 2012 #36
And less profit for the company owners like the Waltons? Lars39 Nov 2012 #48
Transparent Third Way propaganda nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #55
rec bigtree Nov 2012 #12
What are the Alternatives? PrMaine Nov 2012 #17
I don't think that big, nationally operated stores iemitsu Nov 2012 #49
The Price of Capital PrMaine Nov 2012 #54
That is the GOP way, going backward for employees and total profit for employers Iliyah Nov 2012 #24
Bullshit Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #25
Corporations and companies that pay low wages and provide no benefits are shifting their worker's DhhD Nov 2012 #30
Visited my Western Oklahoma sister annually for many years ... like watching a WalMart time-lapse libdem4life Nov 2012 #53
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