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StevieM

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21. Yes, the speech was during the primaries, in April.
Fri Mar 1, 2024, 06:00 PM
Mar 2024

The point is that she was on the ground in Wisconsin.

More importantly, she spent more money in advertising in Wisconsin than Obama did in 2012. And she had a larger ground operation than Obama did in 2012.

I doubt most voters were aware of whether she even held rallies there. And I am sure that it would not have mattered if she did. She held more rallies in Pennsylvania than anywhere else. The data made it clear that where you held your rallies wasn't what determined the outcome of a given state.

The voters did not feel ignored by the candidates in 2016, they felt exhausted with them. And that election was all about exactly what it appeared to be about at the time: the ridiculous email investigation.

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Back in 2016, Hillary gave a great speech about this in Wisconsin. StevieM Mar 2024 #14
You are correct. I will never forgive those who thought it was worthwhile to "run-out-the-clock" * Oopsie Daisy Mar 2024 #18
The "lie"? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2024 #20
The media got a lot wrong. StevieM Mar 2024 #22
Don't try to gaslight me. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2024 #40
I am simply pointing out what the media got wrong. StevieM Mar 2024 #44
Russia MotownPgh Mar 2024 #61
What was the date of that speech? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2024 #19
Yes, the speech was during the primaries, in April. StevieM Mar 2024 #21
IIRC, she spent a lot of time in Ohio, too, and Obama held spooky3 Mar 2024 #26
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