How bad does it have to get? If we lose it all, how do we take it back? [View all]

[Irish_Dem]

Another member of this sub asked some good questions on another thread, and we had an interesting discussion. Thought it might make a good OP.

The other DU member asks: WWII may have been prevented if the democracies of the world, ourselves, included, had acted sooner. It took Peal Harbor to shake us our of this delusion, back when. What it will take this time around?


Irish Dem reply:

Maybe the loss of our democracy.


This is what we are looking at as quite possible in our near future:

1. Fascist, white male christian minority rule. 


2. All the things people took for granted, taken away.
3. The American people are going to face a big learning curve at some point.
4. A very difficult learning experience.

The other DU member asks: If we lose it all, how do we take it back? 

Better to have this "domestic war" before they gain total control. The problem is we don't have a charismatic "leader" who will take us there. 

We once had a JFK, an MLK, and an RFK to "take us there." 

It's something we are badly in need of today.


Irish Dem reply:

1. The problem is many do not realize we are in a domestic and global war.

2. The PutinGOP wages war against us, as does China and the rest of the autocratic bloc.
They wish to shift the global world order to their favor. And become 21st century superpowers.

3. Most of the GOP aligns with the autocratic bloc because they want what fascists have:
total permanent power and access to all national financial assets.

4. US oligarchs appear to have aligned with the autocratic bloc as well.
They want cheap labor, no taxes and no regulation.

5. Dictator and oligarch rule go hand in hand.

6. This fascist and oligarch goal is now deeply embedded across our government at the highest levels.

7. I do not think a single Dem charismatic leader is the answer.

8. Please note that JFK, RFK, MLK were all assassinated by those in power.

9. I think we do need strong leadership but one person cannot do it alone.

10. But first it entails leaders and citizens finally facing reality. The geopolitics tectonic plates
are shifting beneath our feet as we speak.

11. There is a saying in the mental health field: The truth will set you free, but first it will hurt like hell.

12. It may indeed take a Pearl Harbor type event to wake up the American people.

13. This event will be the loss of our democracy and freedom.

14. At the end of the day it is going to fall on We The People to fight for our democracy.

15. And fight hard.

16. It will take a complex plan to win back our democracy. And require courage.